[GRLUG] aaaaargh--NSA

Mike Williams knightperson at zuzax.com
Sat Mar 17 08:50:06 EDT 2012


An even more disturbing trend is the argument (for which I can't seem to 
find a citation, unfortunately) that electronic communications are 
inherently insecure and therefore have no expectation of privacy. 
Without the expectation of privacy, no warrant or other oversight is 
required to intercept it. Combine that with a big NSA computer room 
skimming and storing any and all email that goes across the Internet 
(we're probably not quite there even with this crazy project, but it's 
possible), and any email communication (including this one of course. 
What do you think, NSA, am I a patriot or a terrorist?) can be 
intercepted, stored, or read at the government's convenience with no 
accountability. Sounds downright Orwellian to me!

On 03/16/2012 04:02 PM, Clay Ashby wrote:
> Ah yes, the double standard continues. They can poke around, but we 
> serve jail time for simply talking about it. I'm interested in this 
> quote most of all.
>
>   "According to another top official also involved with the program, 
> the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability 
> to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems 
> employed by not only governments around the world but also many 
> average computer users in the US. "
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Eric Beversluis 
> <ebever at researchintegration.org 
> <mailto:ebever at researchintegration.org>> wrote:
>
>     If George Orwell were alive today, all he'd say is, "I told you so."
>
>     http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
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