[GRLUG] OFF TOPIC Electric Car

[Ben DeMott]

Capacitors are very good at storage, any electron based storage medium
doesn't necessarily suffer from storage shortcomings.
They suffer from Loss of Energy in the transfer process (charging).
Coal to Electricity, to Stored Electricity in a Capacitor has a potential
energy loss somewhere around 70%, that's quite a pill to swallow for
renewable energy ...
(and on top of that add transmission loss over an electrical infrastructure,
even more painful)

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Rick Vargo <rick at vargo.org> wrote:

> I guess I shouldn't have assumed that you would already have the
> property... The $1 a gallon is for planting, growing, fertilizing,
> etc... They also suggest that you can contract with a farmer for
> product. This is not as cheap of a method but is still equivalent to the
> cost of gas...
>
> Rick
>
>
> Collin Kidder wrote:
> > I'll have to check out the site on using alcohol as gas... But if you
> > get 1700 gallons per acre then you need to spend only $1700 on that acre
> > including planting, watering, picking, and fermenting if you want $1/g.
> > That sounds like a tall order for $1700. But, I'm no farmer.
> >
> > Rick Vargo wrote:
> >
> >> Corn is a terrible bio fuel you can only get about 700 gallons from an
> >> acre. Sugar cane is the best. Around here, the best thing to grow for a
> >> bio fuel is probably sugar beats. I think an acre will make about 1700
> >> gallons of alcohol.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael Mol wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Collin Kidder <adderd at kkmfg.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> An electric motor can be made darn near 100% efficient. As a bonus
> >>>> electrical lines are found almost everywhere. It's like a built in gas
> >>>> station in every building you see. So, I do believe that electric cars
> >>>> will end up being the way forward.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> It remains to be seen how efficiently synthetic hydrocarbon fuels can
> >>> be made; If those can be made sufficiently efficient, powering cars
> >>> off the grid won't work.
> >>>
> >>> Granted, corn doesn't appear to be getting us off to a good start.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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