[GRLUG] systemd DNS

Grand Rapids Linux Users Group grlug at grlug.org
Mon Sep 21 15:23:06 EDT 2020


Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear.  I meant BIND DNS as an alternative to 
systemd, not as an adjunct.

Can't speak for unbound - have never tried it.

Warm Regards,
Kyle Maas



On 9/21/20 1:22 PM, Grand Rapids Linux Users Group wrote:
> We've had a ton of issues with systemd DNS resolver doing silly things 
> like crashing and causing huge issues since all resolution fails. 
> (notably, I haven't tried it in probably a year, so maybe newer 
> versions are better), but it seems to me, adding something into the 
> DNS resolver path is just adding another point of failure.
>
> If you do really need DNS caching, check out unbound.  It's super 
> fast/lightweight (compared to BIND), if you're just doing caching..  
> For all my internal stuff, I disable systemd's resolver, and use unbound.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 1:19 PM Grand Rapids Linux Users Group 
> <grlug at grlug.org <mailto:grlug at grlug.org>> wrote:
>
>     I'm more used to using BIND DNS as a recursive resolver and/or
>     machine-local caching resolver.  It may be older, but if it ain't
>     broke, don't fix it.  So, if it's available to you (depending on
>     how much control you have of the environment you run in), you
>     might want to give it a try.  It's easy to set up and boringly
>     reliable.
>
>     Warm Regards,
>     Kyle Maas
>
>
>
>     On 9/20/20 7:18 PM, Grand Rapids Linux Users Group wrote:
>>     I’ve been underwhelmed by systemd DNS for a few months, and am
>>     working through it’s implementation on both ubuntu and centos to
>>     determine why / where it gets its hooks, but haven’t found a real
>>     fix for it, yet.  There are ways to inject nameservers / search
>>     domain.tld / etc. using NetworkManager, network/ing.service,
>>     internal dhcp or dhclient, but none are consistently implemented
>>     and you end up with hosts that fail to resolve internal and
>>     external fqdns until you trounce /etc/resolv.conf with a sane
>>     version of nameservers for your network.
>>
>>     Currently netplan appears to be the most reasonable management
>>     option, but I’m still working through it’s implementation and
>>     deployment.  One of the challenges, I’m running into is that I’m
>>     migrating my VirtualBox VMs to libvirt / KVM, which adds the
>>     additional complication of configuring bonding, but have mostly
>>     worked through those details and have a good netplan
>>     configuration for the kvm nodes, just need to finalize how to
>>     reapply the netplan on running hosts without disrupting
>>     networking on the various guests when network changes happen.
>>
>>     If anyone else is also working on ways to replace systemd’s
>>     brain-dead DNS implementation, I’d be interested in seeing what
>>     you’re experiencing.  Seems a good problem to gather
>>     collaborators for, especially those using different distros, such
>>     as centos, ubuntu, suse, etc.
>>
>>     -Van
>>
>>>     On Sep 18, 2020, at 18:59, Grand Rapids Linux Users Group
>>>     <grlug at grlug.org <mailto:grlug at grlug.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Have a VPS that came configured to use systemd DNS, .. and every
>>>     now and
>>>     then resolution fails (there are Nagios checks checking for the
>>>     various
>>>     websites on that server).
>>>
>>>     Anyone ever seen such a transient failures?
>>>
>>>            Thanks!
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