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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear.  I
      meant BIND DNS as an alternative to systemd, not as an adjunct.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Can't speak for unbound - have never
      tried it.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Warm Regards,<br>
      Kyle Maas</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/21/20 1:22 PM, Grand Rapids Linux
      Users Group wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">We've had a ton of issues with systemd DNS resolver
        doing silly things like crashing and causing huge issues since
        all resolution fails. (notably, I haven't tried it in probably a
        year, so maybe newer versions are better), but it seems to me,
        adding something into the DNS resolver path is just adding
        another point of failure.
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        <div>If you do really need DNS caching, check out unbound.  It's
          super fast/lightweight (compared to BIND), if you're just
          doing caching..  For all my internal stuff, I disable
          systemd's resolver, and use unbound.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 1:19
          PM Grand Rapids Linux Users Group <<a
            href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org" moz-do-not-send="true">grlug@grlug.org</a>>
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            <div>I'm more used to using BIND DNS as a recursive resolver
              and/or machine-local caching resolver.  It may be older,
              but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  So, if it's
              available to you (depending on how much control you have
              of the environment you run in), you might want to give it
              a try.  It's easy to set up and boringly reliable.<br>
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            <div>Warm Regards,<br>
              Kyle Maas</div>
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            <div>On 9/20/20 7:18 PM, Grand Rapids Linux Users Group
              wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote type="cite"> I’ve been underwhelmed by systemd
              DNS for a few months, and am working through it’s
              implementation on both ubuntu and centos to determine why
              / where it gets its hooks, but haven’t found a real fix
              for it, yet.  There are ways to inject nameservers /
              search domain.tld / etc. using NetworkManager,
              network/ing.service, internal dhcp or dhclient, but none
              are consistently implemented and you end up with hosts
              that fail to resolve internal and external fqdns until you
              trounce /etc/resolv.conf with a sane version of
              nameservers for your network.
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              <div>Currently netplan appears to be the most reasonable
                management option, but I’m still working through it’s
                implementation and deployment.  One of the challenges,
                I’m running into is that I’m migrating my VirtualBox VMs
                to libvirt / KVM, which adds the additional complication
                of configuring bonding, but have mostly worked through
                those details and have a good netplan configuration for
                the kvm nodes, just need to finalize how to reapply the
                netplan on running hosts without disrupting networking
                on the various guests when network changes happen.</div>
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              <div>If anyone else is also working on ways to replace
                systemd’s brain-dead DNS implementation, I’d be
                interested in seeing what you’re experiencing.  Seems a
                good problem to gather collaborators for, especially
                those using different distros, such as centos, ubuntu,
                suse, etc.</div>
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              <div>-Van<br>
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                    <div>On Sep 18, 2020, at 18:59, Grand Rapids Linux
                      Users Group <<a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">grlug@grlug.org</a>>
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                      <div>Have a VPS that came configured to use
                        systemd DNS, .. and every now and<br>
                        then resolution fails (there are Nagios checks
                        checking for the various<br>
                        websites on that server).<br>
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                        Anyone ever seen such a transient failures?<br>
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                               Thanks!<br>
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