[GRLUG] So long.

[Michael Mol]

On 05/12/2013 06:10 PM, Godwin wrote:
> Greets Bob, et. al.,
> 
> Sorry to see you go Bob (as I noticed the unsubscribe notification).  I
> assure you I did/do not explicitly filter/moderate the list (other than
> what default behavior Mailman applies).  Looking that the held message's
> headers, it seems the list's email address was not explicitly listed,
> but rather BCC'd.  See message header:
> 
> Return-Path: <bob.kline at gmail.com <mailto:bob.kline at gmail.com>>
> X-Original-To: grlug at grlug.org <mailto:grlug at grlug.org>
> Received: from grlug.org <http://grlug.org> ([127.0.0.1])
> by localhost (maya.grlug.org <http://maya.grlug.org> [127.0.0.1])
> (amavisd-new, port 10024)
> with ESMTP id 9SLFsldUSVhH for <grlug at grlug.org <mailto:grlug at grlug.org>>;
> Fri, 10 May 2013 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT)
> Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom;
> client-ip=209.85.212.43; helo=mail-vb0-f43.google.com
> <http://mail-vb0-f43.google.com>; envelope-from=bob.kline at gmail.com
> <mailto:bob.kline at gmail.com>; receiver=grlug at grlug.org
> <mailto:grlug at grlug.org> 
> Received: by 10.52.171.194 with HTTP; Fri, 10 May 2013 12:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 15:46:54 -0400
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> <mailto:Z7V7m8qrbHepYAsMW2w at mail.gmail.com>>
> Subject: NOT LINUX: "Hollywood" tries again.
> *From: Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com <mailto:bob.kline at gmail.com>>*
> *To: undisclosed-recipients:;*
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d6264d402b004dc626d51
> 
> The bounce notification you received was due to Mailman's default config
> - where the list has to be explicitly listed as a recipient.

Yeah, this is the data I was hoping to see when I asked for the headers.
I suspected this was what had happened.

> 
> Just to clarify, I like to think of the LUG as self-owned.  :-)  As Van
> pointed out, he, Wes, Eric and others had something here in GR going
> when I found them (while at E.M.U).  I came from the Ypsilanti LUG and
> together we got this one off the ground.  I'd like to think its members
> make the LUG and, as my kids often remind me, you can't own people, it
> belongs to all of us - yes Bob you as well.

And thanks a bunch to all of you for it!

> 
> If you'd like to come back, and I speak for myself, I'd welcome you.

Much as Bob and I disagree (almost by default), I don't see much value
in his leaving, either. :-| Homogeneity is never valuable in a
discussion medium, so anything that tends toward should be resisted.

[snip]


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