[GRLUG] So long.

[Van]

Bob:

There is nothing nefarious going on here.  Godwin runs the GRLUG Wes Jennings and I created in 1999 to forward Linux as a viable OS solution for businesses and souls in the west Michigan area better than any moderator I've ever observed.  You can put me down for 18 years UNIX experience, if that's even relevant.

While your assessment that your posts have been moderated are concerning, a better way to deal with it would be to forward Godwin (current moderator) the specific messages you believe are indicated, so they can be addressed.

This group is about forwarding and discussing free-thinking, democratic open source technologies.

I support your moving on, if you choose, but that's our goal here.  Hope you do stay and can help us continue to succeed in getting that message out.

Peace,
Van

On May 12, 2013, at 13:58, Casey DuBois <grlugcasey at gmail.com> wrote:

> I still get filtered sometimes and can assure you there's nothing intentional going on here. I'm thinking if you try again with a new message it will work fine. 
> 
> Regards,
> Casey DuBois
> 616-808-6942
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ben --
>> 
>> I don't intend to discuss this much, but
>> I had no CC in my message, and there
>> isn't much room for filtering in "NOT LINUX,"
>> unless intentionally taken as a phrase.
>> 
>> As for "off-topic discussions," that simply
>> gets back to what's on-topic. I'll simply
>> repeat that individuals have their own ideas
>> about this, but in my ten years there's never
>> been a statement about what's considered
>> on-topic.  It's seat of the pants, or dictated
>> by strong willed individuals who can't be 
>> bothered to ignore anything that's not of 
>> interest to them.  There's more chatter 
>> generated by a few in response to a message
>> they deem inappropriate than would have
>> been the case by deleting it and moving on.
>> 
>> It's Godwin's group.  He can be the final word
>> on it.  But I'm done with it all.
>> 
>>    -- Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Ben Rousch <brousch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Bob,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure where that moderator message came from, but there is no moderator and no one is intentionally attempting to moderate the group. A policy like that would have been discussed publicly, and no such discussion has occurred. Godwin is the only one with the necessary access to the group mail server to enable such a thing. If he says he hasn't enable moderation, then it isn't happening.
>>> 
>>> In the past, we have had intermittent problems with the automated spam filter. For instance, messages that I and others sent containing the word "hackerspace" were automatically deleted about 3 years ago. It is possible that your email contained a keyword that triggered the filter, but that message would just been deleted, not bounced. Another possibility is that you (unintentionally) CCed a moderated mailing list in that email, and the bounce came from them.
>>> 
>>> I would hate to see you leave the group because you think it is being moderated. Although many people would prefer to see fewer off-topic discussions, we have no intention of moderating the list.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>>  Ben Rousch
>>>    brousch at gmail.com
>>>    http://clusterbleep.net/
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