[GRLUG] NOT LINUX - net neutrality

[Bob Kline]

And of course few ISPs are
truly independent of the big
players, who own the backbones.
Those have to be paid for too.

Odd however that Google puts a
1Gbps system in Kansas, and doesn't
seem to worry about the cost.  In fact
does so as a test case should Internet
neutrality, which it depends on, totally
breaks down.

And there are towns like Lafayette, LA,
which have their own fiber Internet, and
charge $58 a month for 50 Mbps - full
duplex!

Yes, they too use the same backbones
as everyone else.  But there's room to
believe there's something wrong with the
current price picture.  And remember that
ISPs are often monopolies - at least the
wire and fiber parts.

   -- Bob


On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chase Bolen <chase.bolen at gmail.com> wrote:

> That only works for the minority of people who:
> 1) have a choice of ISPs
> 2) can afford it
> 3) understand what an SLA is
>
> Are the vast majority of Americans essentially doomed to a mickey mouse
> internet?
> On Sep 23, 2011 12:56 PM, "Michael Mol" <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> http://news.yahoo.com/u-net-neutrality-rules-effect-november-160334496.html
> >> The game is pretty simple.  The little
> >> people want the Internet to be content
> >> neutral.
> >
> > So do network operators, oddly enough.
> >
> >> Internet providers don't.
> >
> > AT&T and Comcast, no; they have divisions whose profit motives are add
> > odds with each other; it doesn't do Comcast's ISP side any good to
> > block Netflix for their customers, and it doesn't do Comcast's video
> > services side any good to allow a competing service down pipes the
> > company already owns.
> >
> >> Does anyone see anything more to the issue
> >> than that?  i.e., anything that doesn't simply
> >> mean the providers want to throw more ads
> >> at you, and decide just what you look at?
> >> That I can tell, the providers still have the
> >> last word on all this.  The little people can
> >> switch providers, but their control ends there.
> >
> > Don't like it? Pay to get an internet connection from an ISP whose
> > only interest is moving data around. Or pay for an internet connection
> > with an SLA. Don't get a cheap, subsidized* internet connection and
> > then complain about limitations placed on that connections because
> > they conflict with the source of the subsidy.
> >
> > * VOIP, VOD, television, ads, etc.
> >
> > There's no such thing as a free lunch; there's only paid lunch or stolen
> lunch.
> >
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