And of course few ISPs are<div>truly independent of the big</div><div>players, who own the backbones.</div><div>Those have to be paid for too.</div><div><br></div><div>Odd however that Google puts a</div><div>1Gbps system in Kansas, and doesn't</div>
<div>seem to worry about the cost. In fact</div><div>does so as a test case should Internet</div><div>neutrality, which it depends on, totally</div><div>breaks down.</div><div><br></div><div>And there are towns like Lafayette, LA,</div>
<div>which have their own fiber Internet, and</div><div>charge $58 a month for 50 Mbps - full</div><div>duplex!</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, they too use the same backbones</div><div>as everyone else. But there's room to </div>
<div>believe there's something wrong with the</div><div>current price picture. And remember that</div><div>ISPs are often monopolies - at least the </div><div>wire and fiber parts.</div><div><br></div><div> -- Bob</div>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chase Bolen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chase.bolen@gmail.com">chase.bolen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<p>That only works for the minority of people who:<br>
1) have a choice of ISPs<br>
2) can afford it<br>
3) understand what an SLA is</p>
<p>Are the vast majority of Americans essentially doomed to a mickey mouse internet?</p><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 23, 2011 12:56 PM, "Michael Mol" <<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikemol@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Bob Kline <<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/u-net-neutrality-rules-effect-november-160334496.html" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/u-net-neutrality-rules-effect-november-160334496.html</a><br>>> The game is pretty simple. The little<br>
>> people want the Internet to be content<br>>> neutral.<br>> <br>> So do network operators, oddly enough.<br>> <br>>> Internet providers don't.<br>> <br>> AT&T and Comcast, no; they have divisions whose profit motives are add<br>
> odds with each other; it doesn't do Comcast's ISP side any good to<br>> block Netflix for their customers, and it doesn't do Comcast's video<br>> services side any good to allow a competing service down pipes the<br>
> company already owns.<br>> <br>>> Does anyone see anything more to the issue<br>>> than that? i.e., anything that doesn't simply<br>>> mean the providers want to throw more ads<br>>> at you, and decide just what you look at?<br>
>> That I can tell, the providers still have the<br>>> last word on all this. The little people can<br>>> switch providers, but their control ends there.<br>> <br>> Don't like it? Pay to get an internet connection from an ISP whose<br>
> only interest is moving data around. Or pay for an internet connection<br>> with an SLA. Don't get a cheap, subsidized* internet connection and<br>> then complain about limitations placed on that connections because<br>
> they conflict with the source of the subsidy.<br>> <br>> * VOIP, VOD, television, ads, etc.<br>> <br>> There's no such thing as a free lunch; there's only paid lunch or stolen lunch.<br>> <br>
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