[GRLUG] Netflix on Linux?

[megadave]

Good point, but that's always been t 'copyright h9olders' can accept
that people can distribute lower quality "analog" copies, but they
have nightmares thinking of people being able to rip 100% accurate
digital.


On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:08, Mike Williams <knightperson at zuzax.com> wrote:
> Once the content is on a computer screen, there are plenty of ways to
> capture it regardless of video driver or operating system. If nothing else,
> you can point a video camera at the screen, and no drm shenanigans can stop
> that. I think the increased risk of content theft under Linux is perception
> rather than reality, but that doesn't change the situation much.
>
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> From: "megadave" <megadave at gmail.com>
> To: "Mailing List for LUG in greater Grand Rapids, MI area."
> <grlug at grlug.org>
> Subject: [GRLUG] Netflix on Linux?
> Date: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 2:23 am
>
>
> But the kernel is still non-proprietary. The 'closed source' app would
> still have to use the kernel to display the video, and this would
> leave a wide open way to hijack the streams and save them in perfect
> digital form.
>
> Now, if we can con them into not realizing that is possible, great.
> But I suspect they have tech advisors that are all too aware.
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 02:19, Mike Williams <knightperson at zuzax.com> wrote:
>> It's my understanding that this is exactly the issue. Still, it shouldn't
>> be
>> insurmountable. The solution would be closed-source, of course, but it
>> could
>> be done. Every so often I hear rumors that it's "almost ready", but I'll
>> believe it when I see it.
>>
>> On 10/21/2011 04:11 PM, megadave wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW, I didnt even look at Netflix until I had acquired a Wii for my
>>> son and noticed there was a Wii Netflix app.
>>>
>>> I suspect the various studios and copyright holders will NEVER let go
>>> of the DRM that keeps Netflix from supporting anything
>>> non-proprietary.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 14:32, David Wise<davidn.wise at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I suppose that I could try grabbing more RAM and running a persistent
>>>> VM,
>>>> but that really eliminates the use of having a Linux machine in the
>>>> first
>>>> place. It is just several more layers of complexity that I need to keep
>>>> running when I could just use a Windows box and save myself some hassle.
>>>>
>>>> Bummer.
>>>> --
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Topher<topher at codeventure.net>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Steve Romanow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is netflix worth all this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Netflix has worked flawlessly in my XP/Virtualbox and now works
>>>>> flawlessly
>>>>> in my Win7/Virtualbox, even full screen seamless mode.  Since I need
>>>>> those
>>>>> machines anyway for testing and photoshop, it's a freebie for me, with
>>>>> no
>>>>> extra effort at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> At that point it's certainly worth it.
>>>>>
>>>>> topher
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:48 PM, David Wise<davidn.wise at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am kind of hoping to avoid running a VM to get it though. I'm
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> wanting to be able to let my wife just fire it up and watch something
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>> she knits and chats (like she currently does in Windows). Do any of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> media players work at all (Boxee etc.)?
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Rob Steenwyk<rsteenwyk at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good idea, except the Android VM runs terribly slow on x86.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2011 12:44 PM, "Michael Mol"<mikemol at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM, David Wise<davidn.wise at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That stinks. I've read something about ChromeOS having a plugin
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> supports Netflix, I was wondering if it's possible to use that
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> Chromium
>>>>>>>>>> or not. Again, I suspect I know the answer, but am hoping someone
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> able to prove me wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve's reply just gave me an idea for a really hacky workaround
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> might actually work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Grab the Android SDK, run Android in a VM, install and use the
>>>>>>>>> Netflix
>>>>>>>>> Android app.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you run Android in a VM in the SDK, you're running bona-fide
>>>>>>>>> Android. So, yeah, it might work. You might need to do some kind of
>>>>>>>>> workaround for 'device compatibility', especially if you want to
>>>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>>>> a 720p or 1080p display...
>>>>>>>>>
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