[GRLUG] Netflix on Linux?

Sat Oct 22 12:08:47 EDT 2011

Once the content is on a computer screen, there are plenty of ways to capture it regardless of video driver or operating system. If nothing else, you can point a video camera at the screen, and no drm shenanigans can stop that. I think the increased risk of content theft under Linux is perception rather than reality, but that doesn't change the situation much.

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From: "megadave" <megadave at gmail.com>
To: "Mailing List for LUG in greater Grand Rapids, MI area." <grlug at grlug.org>
Subject: [GRLUG] Netflix on Linux?
Date: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 2:23 am

But the kernel is still non-proprietary. The 'closed source' app would
still have to use the kernel to display the video, and this would
leave a wide open way to hijack the streams and save them in perfect
digital form.

Now, if we can con them into not realizing that is possible, great.
But I suspect they have tech advisors that are all too aware.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 02:19, Mike Williams <knightperson at zuzax.com> wrote:
> It's my understanding that this is exactly the issue. Still, it shouldn't be
> insurmountable. The solution would be closed-source, of course, but it could
> be done. Every so often I hear rumors that it's "almost ready", but I'll
> believe it when I see it.
>
> On 10/21/2011 04:11 PM, megadave wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, I didnt even look at Netflix until I had acquired a Wii for my
>> son and noticed there was a Wii Netflix app.
>>
>> I suspect the various studios and copyright holders will NEVER let go
>> of the DRM that keeps Netflix from supporting anything
>> non-proprietary.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 14:32, David Wise<davidn.wise at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I suppose that I could try grabbing more RAM and running a persistent VM,
>>> but that really eliminates the use of having a Linux machine in the first
>>> place. It is just several more layers of complexity that I need to keep
>>> running when I could just use a Windows box and save myself some hassle.
>>>
>>> Bummer.
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Topher<topher at codeventure.net>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Steve Romanow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is netflix worth all this?
>>>>
>>>> Netflix has worked flawlessly in my XP/Virtualbox and now works
>>>> flawlessly
>>>> in my Win7/Virtualbox, even full screen seamless mode.  Since I need
>>>> those
>>>> machines anyway for testing and photoshop, it's a freebie for me, with
>>>> no
>>>> extra effort at all.
>>>>
>>>> At that point it's certainly worth it.
>>>>
>>>> topher
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:48 PM, David Wise<davidn.wise at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am kind of hoping to avoid running a VM to get it though. I'm really
>>>>>> wanting to be able to let my wife just fire it up and watch something
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> she knits and chats (like she currently does in Windows). Do any of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> media players work at all (Boxee etc.)?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Rob Steenwyk<rsteenwyk at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good idea, except the Android VM runs terribly slow on x86.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2011 12:44 PM, "Michael Mol"<mikemol at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM, David Wise<davidn.wise at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That stinks. I've read something about ChromeOS having a plugin
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> supports Netflix, I was wondering if it's possible to use that with
>>>>>>>>> Chromium
>>>>>>>>> or not. Again, I suspect I know the answer, but am hoping someone
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> able to prove me wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve's reply just gave me an idea for a really hacky workaround
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> might actually work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grab the Android SDK, run Android in a VM, install and use the
>>>>>>>> Netflix
>>>>>>>> Android app.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you run Android in a VM in the SDK, you're running bona-fide
>>>>>>>> Android. So, yeah, it might work. You might need to do some kind of
>>>>>>>> workaround for 'device compatibility', especially if you want to
>>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>>> a 720p or 1080p display...
>>>>>>>>
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