[GRLUG] Thunderbird on Win7

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 07:37 -0400, Eric Beversluis wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 20:17 -0500, Philip J. Robar wrote:
> > knecht:~ pjrobar$ telnet mail.omnis.com 587 <----- NOTE: A space
> > between the address and port number—not a colon.
> > Trying 216.239.128.27...
> > Connected to mail.omnis.com.
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > 220 relay.omnis.com ESMTP Postfix - (mail-hub-b.omnis.com)
> > ehlo test.com
> > <------ That's how you say hello to a mail server, it returns a list
> > of features it supports.
> > 250-mail-hub-b.omnis.com
> > 250-PIPELINING
> > 250-SIZE 20480000
> > 250-VRFY
> > 250-ETRN
> > 250-STARTTLS
> > 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
> > 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
> > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> > 250-8BITMIME
> > 250 DSN
> > ^]
> > >From the above it's clear that port 587 at telnet.omnis.com is open,
> > that the mail server supports TLS: "250-STARTTLS" and that it's
> > expecting a plain, unencrypted user name and password. 
> Thanks to all for the help. I think in the end my problem was trying to
> use the 'SSL/TLS' setting rather than the "StartTLS' setting, since the
> less-than-helpful folks at Omnis had said nothing about 'StartTLS,' only
> to use TLS. They also provided no indication of what form of login to
> use.

FYI, TLS == StartTLS  (listing it as "StartTLS" rather than just "TLS"
in the application is another example of TB's terrible UI design).
StartTLS is the operation performed on the connection to go from an
'open' connection to an encrypted connection.

TLS *is* SSL v3.1.  TLS supersedes SSL (which is sorta-kinda
deprecated).

TLS 1.1 == SSL v3.2

TLS 1.2 == SSL v3.3

It is all very odd, and a terrible choice in naming.  But a bit of
reading will clear it up [and doing so is highly recommended].

> Anyway I found where they were. This is indicated in Thunderbird at
> Account Settings -> Server Settings -> Local Directory. At the indicated
> location, one sees several sub-directories for the various accounts one
> has created. These are under the Mail sub-dir under the Profile sub-dir,
> and include the deleted accounts. So I opened the sub-dir for
> mail.researchintegration.org, re-named various files (Inbox, Inbox.msf,
> Sent, Sent.msf) to x-old and x-old.msf, etc. and copied them into the
> mail.omnis.com folder. Seems to have worked fine.


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