[GRLUG] ISP shopping

Bob Kline bob.kline at gmail.com
Thu Jun 23 10:07:22 EDT 2011


What's "dry dsl?"

What is the upstream speed?

Is there some kind of guaranteed
speed implied?  i.e., is this like
business service?

   -- Bob



On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Matthew Seeley <matthew at threadlight.com>wrote:

> I have never actually had service with them yet, but if your looking for
> something like Speakeasy, Iserv.net is local to Grand Rapids, and they seem
> legit.
>
> For some reason, they hide services and pricing offline -- so you'll have
> to call or 'live chat' with them to get a quote.
>
> But they quoted me $50/month for 5mb down for "dry dsl" which seems
> reasonable. It's $20ish dollars more per month than the same speeds from
> AT&T U-Verse in my area, and you have to agree to a contract,  but Iserv
> gives you get a real modem (for "free"), and a static IP address (also for
> "free").
>
>
> (I'm switching to them sometime in September, and can let you know how it
> goes)
>
>
> --
> Matthew Seeley
> Threadlight Systems
> PO Box 612, Jenison MI 49429
> T: (616) 328-5649
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Philip J. Robar <
>> philip.robar at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 22, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I'm shopping for an ISP for home. Not going to touch Comcast or
>> >> > U-verse for this. U-verse because I don't like their router, and
>> >> > Comcast because the local loop's bandwidth will be shared with too
>> >> > many other local customers.
>> >>
>> >> I had Comcast in an pretty dense apartment location in the heart of the
>> SF
>> >> Bay Area, California for years and never had a problem with shared
>> bandwidth
>> >> or their service. Currently I'm using Charter here in St. Louis and
>> I've
>> >> never noticed a slow down.
>> >>
>> >> Phil
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I was told by a Comcast rep that one of the things
>> > get with a business class service is "preferential
>> > treatment" with bandwidth.  Somehow they
>> > allow the business traffic through preferentially
>> > if there is congestion.
>>
>> That's QoS with preferential routing. A reasonable option, but I've
>> got worries about Comcast doing DPI traffic shaping even on their
>> commercial customers, especially considering I'm going to be pushing
>> VOIP.
>>
>> Also, when I last had Comcast, they had regular-as-clockwork service
>> outages at about 2:30AM every Wednesday night, at about the same time
>> as all their video channels gave the "this is a test of the emergency
>> broadcast system" message. I wouldn't use them for anything that
>> needed to run reliably overnight.
>>
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