[GRLUG] Comcast and net neutrality

Joe Vanderstelt thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com
Sun Oct 21 19:09:53 EDT 2007


I'm also a Comcast customer than has been effected. I would like to
write a letter to Levin and Stabenow but write was never my best
subject. Does any have a boiler plate  type letter I would use?

On 10/20/07, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> I did that yesterday.  Congress has been
> slow to act on net neutrality legislation,
> making me think they are in the back
> pocket of the industry on this issue too.
> Industry says legislation is unnecessary,
> which suggest it wouldn't hurt then either.
>
> But it's what we can do.  I'd like to see the
> tax payers have their own backbone fibers,
> that can be used by private ISPs,  but not
> controlled.
>
> Of course the tax payers have Internet2 - not
> to be confused with Internet 2.  A high speed
> Internet backbone that only gov't labs and
> schools can use.  It's been around for 8 years
> that I know of,  and is supposedly a vehicle
> for researching high speed networks.  That part
> I think is a crock, and doubt that it will ever be
> opened up to ordinary tax payers.  Too much
> fun the way things are...  :-(
>
>     -Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/20/07, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Both me and a friend of mine have encountered Comcast's filtering.
> > Since I found out that it's there, I can't help but wonder if any
> > given spurious RST packet came from them.
> >
> > However, there may be a way around it, but it requires delaying action
> > on received RST packets to see if normal packets follow, which would
> > require modification of the TCP stack of the host and any NAT in
> > between.
> >
> > I think I'm going to send Levin and Stabenow a couple more letters
> > regarding Net Neutrality.
>
>
>
>
> > On 10/20/07, Bob Kline < bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Those of you with Comcast might be interested in this:
> > >
> > > http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/10/19/comcast/
> > >
> > > For those of you that don't have Comcast,  what one
> > > company does others might follow.  Comcast has been
> > > less than forthcoming about its activities, and was dug
> > > out by the Associated Press.
> > >
> > > The head of SBC,  and later AT&T,  mumbled a couple
> > > of years ago that he didn't see why people should be
> > > able to use "his" fibers to put competitive services on.
> > > In that case phone service like Vonage.
> > >
> > > While companies like Comcast are trying to snow
> > > Congress in to thinking there is no need for net neutrality
> > > legislation,  clearly there is.  The alternative is to let
> > > outfits like Comcast do for the Internet what it and
> > > DirecTV have done for TV - just a sea of ads, with the not
> > > so subtle hint you might want to buy some premium
> > > services if you want to actually watch any programming.
> > >
> > > With the Internet we might end up paying for premium
> > > services just to stay where we are now.  Otherwise
> > > Comcast might just want to make your life miserable.
> > > And don't forget that it is a monopoly in many of the
> > > areas it serves.
> > >
> > >     -Bob
> > >
> > >
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