[GRLUG] Linux @ school.

[brad]

I agree. America's public schools must stink,look at the idiots 
running the country, but why bother educating the young? Most
work can be done cheaper and better in China or India, especially
technical work. Everyone knows America's computer geeks are
definitely second tier, definitely overpaid.
Ask DeVos, he knows. If you want something made right...make it
in China.


--- Original Message ---
From: "Benjamin Flanders" <flanderb at gmail.com>
To: rlauzon at acm.org, grlug at grlug.org
Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Linux @ school.

>The reason schools pay money for Windows is because they don't know
>any better.
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>On 9/27/06, Ron Lauzon <rlauzon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let me chime in on this, since this is a sore point for me
(both my dad and
>> one of my brother's are teachers).
>>
>> Having had bad teachers, and having seen what the schools did
to my
>> brothers, I can see Collin's point.  I think that we pay
teachers way too
>> much *for what we get from them*.
>>
>> I think the issue here is value.  I don't mind paying a good
teacher plenty
>> of money, but I do mind paying a bad teacher alot of money. 
But current
>> public school rules say that teacher have to be paid not on
how good a job
>> they do, but on their senority.  No wonder why charter schools
tend to do
>> better.
>>
>> Now back to Linux...
>> One of the issues with computer technology in schools is
money.  Why are
>> schools PAYING for Windows when Linux is free?  Why are
schools PAYING for
>> MS Office when OpenOffice is free?
>>
>>  These are the type of questions that parents need to bring up
to the
>> schools when the schools say "we don't have the money for
xxxxx."  Part of
>> the problem with the schools is that they do not spend their
funds wisely.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/06, Benjamin Eavey <ben at eavey.com> wrote:
>> > > Or how about we don't pay teachers way more than they are
worth and
>> > > don't cater to their incessant demands? We waste far more
money on
>> > > teachers and their above average benefits than we ever
could on buying
>> > > computers and other supplies. Don't forget that the true
cost of an
>> > > employee is usually double their salary. For a teacher
making 50,000
>> > > that's upwards of 100,000 after payroll taxes and
benefits. Now you tell
>> > > me which is a better way to save money: Not buying $3,000
computers or
>> > > knocking holier-than-thou teachers off their bully
pulpits? Maybe we can
>> > > use the money we save to buy better supplies and hire more
teachers?
>> >
>> > I don't want to go too far into this debate, so I'll just
give my
>> > opinion and leave it at that:
>> >
>> > You say $50,000/year is way too much for a teacher's salary.
>> >
>> > I have 2 kids in elementary school.
>> >
>> > Your opinion scares me.
>> >
>> > I don't want someone who makes $25,000/year, for instance,
teaching my
>> > kids.  Period.  What kind of people will you end up with if
you don't
>> > pay a decent salary?  You'll end up with people who couldn't
get a
>> > better job doing something else.  That's frightening.
>> >
>> > My children will (unfortunately) spend more time with their
teacher
>> > during the week than with me.  I want that person to be
someone who has
>> > a good education, who is well-qualified, and who makes a
good salary.  I
>> > want the position of "teacher" to be desirable and
satisfying for
>> > intelligent, well-educated people who can be good role
models for kids.
>> >
>> > Basically, I don't want someone in a comparable economic
position to the
>> > assistant manager at Wendy's educating my children.
>> >
>> > Thanks for reading.
>> >
>> > We can go back to talking about Linux now...  :)
>> >
>> > -Ben
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