[GRLUG] grlug Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29

Sun May 14 22:21:39 EDT 2006

A problem i've had with Ubuntu is Grub failure.  I haven't had any problems with it on any other distro (FC4/5, Mepis).  Not sure why it's happening just in Ubuntu, but it is and it's annoying.  I'm a Linux baby so things like fixing Grub never go well for me...I usually end up getting help, until of course I mess it up again :)

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> From: grlug-request at grlug.org> Subject: grlug Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29> To: grlug at grlug.org> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:30:01 -0400> > Send grlug mailing list submissions to> grlug at grlug.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> grlug-request at grlug.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> grlug-owner at grlug.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of grlug digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> >    1. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Tim Schmidt)>    2. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Brad Becker)>    3. hello. (jake reynolds)>    4. Re: hello. (Tim Schmidt)>    5. Re: hello. (Bob Kline)>    6. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Bob Kline)>    7. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Tim Schmidt)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:12:56 -0400> From: "Tim Schmidt" <timschmidt at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues> To: grlug at grlug.org> Message-ID:> <2c97fe9d0605140912x41f8a990oe8c2e76ca1ca0ea9 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed> > On 5/14/06, Bill Creswell <billcreswell at gmail.com> wrote:> > With any distro I have tried, I have varied success and failures with boot and display on different machines.> > Interesting...  you've filed bugs?> > I haven't had a problem booting any Linux distro on any of my flock> for at least 4 or 5 years...> > --tim> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:22:20 -0700> From: Brad Becker <investmgmt at s91195370.onlinehome.us>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues> To: grlug at grlug.org> Message-ID: <200605140922.20959.investmgmt at s91195370.onlinehome.us>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > On Sunday 14 May 2006 08:31, brad wrote:> > > I have heard that Kanotix is very fast and runs on about any> > hardware.> > http://kanotix.com/index.php?&newlang=eng> > http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/03/1816209> > http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~bading/cpx-mini/> > I use Kanotix.  It's pretty fast alright tho I am running a newer system.> > - Brad Becker> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:58:08 -0400> From: "jake reynolds" <valdin98 at gmail.com>> Subject: [GRLUG] hello.> To: grlug at grlug.org> Message-ID:> <90ea8c180605131358m22ba4256ne90ba1f703367a17 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hi, I'm not new to Grand Rapids or computers. However, the UHACC guys at> Penguicon talked me into switching over to linux, which I just got around to> now that school is done. I get great advice and technical knowlege from> them, but they suggested I see if there was a local LUG that got together> semi-regularly to hang around and geek out. So, are you guys just a mailing> list, or do you get together sometimes?> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20060513/375c9b01/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:32:39 -0400> From: "Tim Schmidt" <timschmidt at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] hello.> To: grlug at grlug.org> Message-ID:> <2c97fe9d0605141032x68e87c19s1da6d5b5da886f21 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed> > On 5/13/06, jake reynolds <valdin98 at gmail.com> wrote:> > Hi, I'm not new to Grand Rapids or computers. However, the UHACC guys at> > Penguicon talked me into switching over to linux, which I just got around to> > now that school is done. I get great advice and technical knowlege from> > them, but they suggested I see if there was a local LUG that got together> > semi-regularly to hang around and geek out. So, are you guys just a mailing> > list, or do you get together sometimes?> > Haven't gotten together since I've been on the list...  Although there> are finally some decent FOSS games kicking around, so I've been> playing around with the idea of an unofficial GRLUG lan party at my> place sometime soon.  Anyone interested?> > --tim> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:42:19 -0400> From: "Bob Kline" <bob.kline at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] hello.> To: grlug at grlug.org> Message-ID:> <d181b7d70605141142q3ff02133x8e5ad96ae49af9e2 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > The group met quite often up to about two years ago.> We'd meet at the ITT facility just off 28th Street,  and> get 10 to 15 people.  Every so often there is a meeting> thread,  but most people say in effect they'd like to but> have too many commitments.  There used to be> periodic meetings at Noshville,  a coffee place on 44th,> on Saturday afternoon,  where people would gather> for a while and just shoot the breeze,  mostly, but not> exclusively, about Linux.  Perhaps a loose topic for> those wanting something of an agenda.  It might be> interesting to call for a meeting like that and just see> who shows up.  But be prepared to be alone.  Unless> something has changed,  you might want to look> elsewhere for a group that meets regularly.  There's> an active group in Kalamazoo.> >      -Bob> > P.S.,  Noshville is at 2763 44th Street,  west of Clyde Park.> > > On 5/13/06, jake reynolds <valdin98 at gmail.com> wrote:> >> > Hi, I'm not new to Grand Rapids or computers. However, the UHACC guys at> > Penguicon talked me into switching over to linux, which I just got around to> > now that school is done. I get great advice and technical knowlege from> > them, but they suggested I see if there was a local LUG that got together> > semi-regularly to hang around and geek out. So, are you guys just a mailing> > list, or do you get together sometimes?> >> > _______________________________________________> > grlug mailing list> > grlug at grlug.org> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> >> >> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20060514/82ff7cf2/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:52:35 -0400> From: "Bob Kline" <bob.kline at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues> To: grlug at grlug.org> Message-ID:> <d181b7d70605141152v5f25b791ida7d0863643f7759 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > The "live" version came up on an older machine, but> was indeed too slow to be interesting.   On a newer> machine it comes up to a point,  and then I get display> problems.> > > The "install" version results in the endless "Press a key> to reboot" messages.   I'm repeating myself a bit here,> but just to be clear,  it is the "install" version that I am> really interested in.   The "live" version can't be taken> seriously except as a demo vehicle.> > > I suspect Ubuntu has to work better than this,  given its> reputation,  which is why I brought up the possibility that> there might be some kind of "burn" issue,  even though> just what escapes me.   The DVD/CD device works fine> in all other respects.  I routinely use it for backups.> > > Now,  my machine is a home rolled unit too,  so I really> can't go and say to anyone "Ubuntu doesn't work on an X."> > >      -Bob> > > On 5/14/06, Bill Creswell <billcreswell at gmail.com> wrote:> >> > With any distro I have tried, I have varied success and failures with boot> > and display on different machines. You will find the Ubuntu live too slow to> > be interesting on any machine.> >> > (For live CD's I like SLAX and Austrumi 1.2, both based on slackware, and> > fast enough to be useful).> >> > I have several of the distributed CD's if you want one. And several other> > distro's you could try. (anybody want to start a library somewhere)> >> > If it came up on the older machine, I would probably rule out CD write> > issues.> >> > On 5/14/06, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:> >> > > I downloaded the "live" and "install" versions of> > Ubuntu 5.10,  and then "burned" the image on to an> > R/W  CD using Nero.> >> > The live version comes up,  but eventually gets> > in to trouble with the display.   I get a rather confused> > looking display,  and for all practical purposes the> > system is wedged.  I ran the same CD on a much> > older machine.  It came up fine,  but was far too> > slow to be interesting.> >> > The install CD and a blank hard drive results in> > "Press a key to reboot."   I press a key,  and get back> > to the same message.  As many times as I care to play.> > This also occurs on the older machine.> >> > I'm mostly interested in the install.  Does anyone> > have any thoughts on what might be going on here?> > Just for kicks,  I tried the "make bootable disc" option> > on Nero,  but the result is the same.  Is there anything> > more to making the CD than using the "burn image"> > option?  Might there be any conceivable issue in> > using an R/W media?> >> >     -Bob> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > grlug mailing list> > grlug at grlug.org> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> >> >> >> >> > --> > www.billcreswell.com - family news, notes and writings> > http://grComputerWorks.blogspot.com - web and computer related topics> > http://www.grcomputerworks.com> >> > _______________________________________________> > grlug mailing list> > grlug at grlug.org> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> >> >> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20060514/2cd6c40b/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:31:02 -0400> From: "Tim Schmidt" <timschmidt at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues> To: grlug at grlug.org> Message-ID:> <2c97fe9d0605141231y3333d13fx34addbc2e5398ac7 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed> > On 5/14/06, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:> > The "live" version came up on an older machine, but> > was indeed too slow to be interesting.   On a newer> > machine it comes up to a point,  and then I get display> > problems.> > Have you given other recent Linux distributions a shot on the same> hardware?  You could also try specifying the vesa display driver,> which should work on any graphics hardware.> > > The "install" version results in the endless "Press a key> > to reboot" messages.   I'm repeating myself a bit here,> > but just to be clear,  it is the "install" version that I am> > really interested in.   The "live" version can't be taken> > seriously except as a demo vehicle.> > Sounds like either a bad CD, a funky ACPI setup, or some other odd> problem.  Have you tried manually resetting the machine?> > > I suspect Ubuntu has to work better than this,  given its> > reputation,  which is why I brought up the possibility that> > there might be some kind of "burn" issue,  even though> > just what escapes me.   The DVD/CD device works fine> > in all other respects.  I routinely use it for backups.> > Check the MD5 / SHA1 signature of the ISO?> > > Now,  my machine is a home rolled unit too,  so I really> > can't go and say to anyone "Ubuntu doesn't work on an X> > So are all mine...  motherboard and graphics card make and model might help.> > --tim> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> grlug mailing list> grlug at grlug.org> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> > End of grlug Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29> ************************************
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