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<P>> From: grlug-request@grlug.org<BR>> Subject: grlug Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:30:01 -0400<BR>> <BR>> Send grlug mailing list submissions to<BR>> grlug@grlug.org<BR>> <BR>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug<BR>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>> grlug-request@grlug.org<BR>> <BR>> You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>> grlug-owner@grlug.org<BR>> <BR>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>> than "Re: Contents of grlug digest..."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics:<BR>> <BR>> 1. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Tim Schmidt)<BR>> 2. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Brad Becker)<BR>> 3. hello. (jake reynolds)<BR>> 4. Re: hello. (Tim Schmidt)<BR>> 5. Re: hello. (Bob Kline)<BR>> 6. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Bob Kline)<BR>> 7. Re: Ubuntu live and install issues (Tim Schmidt)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:12:56 -0400<BR>> From: "Tim Schmidt" <timschmidt@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <2c97fe9d0605140912x41f8a990oe8c2e76ca1ca0ea9@mail.gmail.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed<BR>> <BR>> On 5/14/06, Bill Creswell <billcreswell@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> > With any distro I have tried, I have varied success and failures with boot and display on different machines.<BR>> <BR>> Interesting... you've filed bugs?<BR>> <BR>> I haven't had a problem booting any Linux distro on any of my flock<BR>> for at least 4 or 5 years...<BR>> <BR>> --tim<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:22:20 -0700<BR>> From: Brad Becker <investmgmt@s91195370.onlinehome.us><BR>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Message-ID: <200605140922.20959.investmgmt@s91195370.onlinehome.us><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> On Sunday 14 May 2006 08:31, brad wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > I have heard that Kanotix is very fast and runs on about any<BR>> > hardware.<BR>> > http://kanotix.com/index.php?&newlang=eng<BR>> > http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/03/1816209<BR>> > http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~bading/cpx-mini/<BR>> <BR>> I use Kanotix. It's pretty fast alright tho I am running a newer system.<BR>> <BR>> - Brad Becker<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 3<BR>> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:58:08 -0400<BR>> From: "jake reynolds" <valdin98@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: [GRLUG] hello.<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <90ea8c180605131358m22ba4256ne90ba1f703367a17@mail.gmail.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> Hi, I'm not new to Grand Rapids or computers. However, the UHACC guys at<BR>> Penguicon talked me into switching over to linux, which I just got around to<BR>> now that school is done. I get great advice and technical knowlege from<BR>> them, but they suggested I see if there was a local LUG that got together<BR>> semi-regularly to hang around and geek out. So, are you guys just a mailing<BR>> list, or do you get together sometimes?<BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20060513/375c9b01/attachment-0001.htm <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 4<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:32:39 -0400<BR>> From: "Tim Schmidt" <timschmidt@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] hello.<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <2c97fe9d0605141032x68e87c19s1da6d5b5da886f21@mail.gmail.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed<BR>> <BR>> On 5/13/06, jake reynolds <valdin98@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> > Hi, I'm not new to Grand Rapids or computers. However, the UHACC guys at<BR>> > Penguicon talked me into switching over to linux, which I just got around to<BR>> > now that school is done. I get great advice and technical knowlege from<BR>> > them, but they suggested I see if there was a local LUG that got together<BR>> > semi-regularly to hang around and geek out. So, are you guys just a mailing<BR>> > list, or do you get together sometimes?<BR>> <BR>> Haven't gotten together since I've been on the list... Although there<BR>> are finally some decent FOSS games kicking around, so I've been<BR>> playing around with the idea of an unofficial GRLUG lan party at my<BR>> place sometime soon. Anyone interested?<BR>> <BR>> --tim<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 5<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:42:19 -0400<BR>> From: "Bob Kline" <bob.kline@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] hello.<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <d181b7d70605141142q3ff02133x8e5ad96ae49af9e2@mail.gmail.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> The group met quite often up to about two years ago.<BR>> We'd meet at the ITT facility just off 28th Street, and<BR>> get 10 to 15 people. Every so often there is a meeting<BR>> thread, but most people say in effect they'd like to but<BR>> have too many commitments. There used to be<BR>> periodic meetings at Noshville, a coffee place on 44th,<BR>> on Saturday afternoon, where people would gather<BR>> for a while and just shoot the breeze, mostly, but not<BR>> exclusively, about Linux. Perhaps a loose topic for<BR>> those wanting something of an agenda. It might be<BR>> interesting to call for a meeting like that and just see<BR>> who shows up. But be prepared to be alone. Unless<BR>> something has changed, you might want to look<BR>> elsewhere for a group that meets regularly. There's<BR>> an active group in Kalamazoo.<BR>> <BR>> -Bob<BR>> <BR>> P.S., Noshville is at 2763 44th Street, west of Clyde Park.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On 5/13/06, jake reynolds <valdin98@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > Hi, I'm not new to Grand Rapids or computers. However, the UHACC guys at<BR>> > Penguicon talked me into switching over to linux, which I just got around to<BR>> > now that school is done. I get great advice and technical knowlege from<BR>> > them, but they suggested I see if there was a local LUG that got together<BR>> > semi-regularly to hang around and geek out. So, are you guys just a mailing<BR>> > list, or do you get together sometimes?<BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > grlug mailing list<BR>> > grlug@grlug.org<BR>> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20060514/82ff7cf2/attachment-0001.htm <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 6<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:52:35 -0400<BR>> From: "Bob Kline" <bob.kline@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <d181b7d70605141152v5f25b791ida7d0863643f7759@mail.gmail.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> The "live" version came up on an older machine, but<BR>> was indeed too slow to be interesting. On a newer<BR>> machine it comes up to a point, and then I get display<BR>> problems.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> The "install" version results in the endless "Press a key<BR>> to reboot" messages. I'm repeating myself a bit here,<BR>> but just to be clear, it is the "install" version that I am<BR>> really interested in. The "live" version can't be taken<BR>> seriously except as a demo vehicle.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I suspect Ubuntu has to work better than this, given its<BR>> reputation, which is why I brought up the possibility that<BR>> there might be some kind of "burn" issue, even though<BR>> just what escapes me. The DVD/CD device works fine<BR>> in all other respects. I routinely use it for backups.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Now, my machine is a home rolled unit too, so I really<BR>> can't go and say to anyone "Ubuntu doesn't work on an X."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -Bob<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On 5/14/06, Bill Creswell <billcreswell@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > With any distro I have tried, I have varied success and failures with boot<BR>> > and display on different machines. You will find the Ubuntu live too slow to<BR>> > be interesting on any machine.<BR>> ><BR>> > (For live CD's I like SLAX and Austrumi 1.2, both based on slackware, and<BR>> > fast enough to be useful).<BR>> ><BR>> > I have several of the distributed CD's if you want one. And several other<BR>> > distro's you could try. (anybody want to start a library somewhere)<BR>> ><BR>> > If it came up on the older machine, I would probably rule out CD write<BR>> > issues.<BR>> ><BR>> > On 5/14/06, Bob Kline <bob.kline@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > > I downloaded the "live" and "install" versions of<BR>> > Ubuntu 5.10, and then "burned" the image on to an<BR>> > R/W CD using Nero.<BR>> ><BR>> > The live version comes up, but eventually gets<BR>> > in to trouble with the display. I get a rather confused<BR>> > looking display, and for all practical purposes the<BR>> > system is wedged. I ran the same CD on a much<BR>> > older machine. It came up fine, but was far too<BR>> > slow to be interesting.<BR>> ><BR>> > The install CD and a blank hard drive results in<BR>> > "Press a key to reboot." I press a key, and get back<BR>> > to the same message. As many times as I care to play.<BR>> > This also occurs on the older machine.<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm mostly interested in the install. Does anyone<BR>> > have any thoughts on what might be going on here?<BR>> > Just for kicks, I tried the "make bootable disc" option<BR>> > on Nero, but the result is the same. Is there anything<BR>> > more to making the CD than using the "burn image"<BR>> > option? Might there be any conceivable issue in<BR>> > using an R/W media?<BR>> ><BR>> > -Bob<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > grlug mailing list<BR>> > grlug@grlug.org<BR>> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > --<BR>> > www.billcreswell.com - family news, notes and writings<BR>> > http://grComputerWorks.blogspot.com - web and computer related topics<BR>> > http://www.grcomputerworks.com<BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > grlug mailing list<BR>> > grlug@grlug.org<BR>> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20060514/2cd6c40b/attachment-0001.htm <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 7<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:31:02 -0400<BR>> From: "Tim Schmidt" <timschmidt@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Ubuntu live and install issues<BR>> To: grlug@grlug.org<BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <2c97fe9d0605141231y3333d13fx34addbc2e5398ac7@mail.gmail.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed<BR>> <BR>> On 5/14/06, Bob Kline <bob.kline@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> > The "live" version came up on an older machine, but<BR>> > was indeed too slow to be interesting. On a newer<BR>> > machine it comes up to a point, and then I get display<BR>> > problems.<BR>> <BR>> Have you given other recent Linux distributions a shot on the same<BR>> hardware? You could also try specifying the vesa display driver,<BR>> which should work on any graphics hardware.<BR>> <BR>> > The "install" version results in the endless "Press a key<BR>> > to reboot" messages. I'm repeating myself a bit here,<BR>> > but just to be clear, it is the "install" version that I am<BR>> > really interested in. The "live" version can't be taken<BR>> > seriously except as a demo vehicle.<BR>> <BR>> Sounds like either a bad CD, a funky ACPI setup, or some other odd<BR>> problem. Have you tried manually resetting the machine?<BR>> <BR>> > I suspect Ubuntu has to work better than this, given its<BR>> > reputation, which is why I brought up the possibility that<BR>> > there might be some kind of "burn" issue, even though<BR>> > just what escapes me. The DVD/CD device works fine<BR>> > in all other respects. I routinely use it for backups.<BR>> <BR>> Check the MD5 / SHA1 signature of the ISO?<BR>> <BR>> > Now, my machine is a home rolled unit too, so I really<BR>> > can't go and say to anyone "Ubuntu doesn't work on an X<BR>> <BR>> So are all mine... motherboard and graphics card make and model might help.<BR>> <BR>> --tim<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> grlug mailing list<BR>> grlug@grlug.org<BR>> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug<BR>> <BR>> End of grlug Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29<BR>> ************************************<BR></P><br /><hr />Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes <a href='http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx' target='_new'>Upgrade today</a></body>
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