[GRLUG] Distro's - was GRLUG test comment

Rick Vargo rick at vargo.org
Thu May 4 09:56:45 EDT 2006


I agree.  To enable the root account on ubuntu "sudo passwd root"

Rick

On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 08:22 -0500, Michael Greene wrote:

> I like Ubuntu for the same reasons Benjamin mentioned.
> 
> Also, to the sudo complainers, is it really that hard to sudo passwd
> and be done with it?  I understand that you don't like Ubuntu changing
> the paradigm, but it works better for many of the people with whom
> I've walked through Ubuntu.  None of these users would have maintained
> seperate administrator and regular users accounts in Windows,
> switching between when they needed to, because this would have been a
> hassle.  However, most understood the exposure to prompts for a
> password to execute a single operation, since this happens in both XP
> and OS X, depending on personal configurations.
> 
> RH7->Mandrake->Gentoo->FC->Ubuntu, and I think I'm staying here for awhile.
> 
> Michael
> On 5/4/06, Benjamin Flanders <flanderb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I switched to Ubuntu from Mandrake.  I don't mind sudo.  I like the
> > idea of sudo from a multiuser standpoint, but you are right, for a
> > (mostly) single user based distro it seems a little redundunt.  I can
> > mess up my machine just as easily with sudo as I can with su.
> >
> > I liked Ubuntu because of apt and the popularity of the distro creates
> > a lot of really nice documentation and howto's on the web.  I need
> > this simple to follow type of documentation:)
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/4/06, Matthew Whitaker <matthew.whitaker at haworth.com> wrote:
> > >  I have to say that I firmly agree with David on this one.  The last time I
> > > installed Ubuntu I was really frustrated with the no root, just use sudo
> > > aspect of it.  I really prefer simply logging in as root at times.  It's
> > > true I have screwed things up that way, but live and learn - Ubuntu's model
> > > was simply too annoying for me.
> > >
> > >  I am pretty firmly in the Debian camp for desktops right now, with my
> > > preference for servers being RedHat (at least for the time being).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 08:45 -0400, David Pembrook wrote:
> > >
> > >  Any distro without clutter is a good thing but... (I'm gonna gripe here
> > > now...)
> > >
> > >  I tried ubuntu a couple of weeks ago. It installed easy enough. As easy as
> > > anything else I think.
> > >
> > >  I don't like how they tried to remove the su to root concept (there is no
> > > root password so you can't "su" and must use sudo). I got done with my
> > > install and was scratching my head like a lot of other uses thinking "they
> > > never asked for my root password". I know what they are trying to do and
> > > anyone with experience can "fix things" and go back to using "su" to manage
> > > their box in no time. If you screw your box up as root, well.. geesss.. of
> > > course thats your fault... but let me make my mistakes LOL.
> > >
> > >  Does it bother anyone else that they are changing things like that? I
> > > happen to like god mode... root is one place I still have control in my life
> > > LOL
> > >
> > >  For my 2 cents on a good distro, I've fallen into the Debian camp now...
> > > give me a debian net install cd anytime! I must have my apt. Goodbye redhat
> > > and fedora!
> > >
> > >  Oh and I love simply mepis for a live cd linux. Any other good new live cd
> > > linuxes out there?
> > >
> > >  Dave
> > >
> > >  Jordan Hudson wrote:
> > >
> > >  I love debian, but ubuntu gives me everything I like about debian without
> > > the clutter. I used suse for a while, but I found the same clutter as I
> > > found in debian. Mandriva was not for me at all, and xandros was like
> > > windows with a linux kernel (not good at all, stay away!). I like kanotix,
> > > but I want something more permanent. I'm thinking of trying slax or mepis
> > > (simply or otherwise), any thoughts on those 2 distros? I love distros!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 5/3/06, Raymond McLaughlin <driveray at ameritech.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  zdennis wrote:
> > >
> > >  > Congratulations! I am sure you will have a long and successful
> > > relationship with fedora,
> > >  > although I prefer debby myself. ;)
> > >
> > >  So did Ian, but then they forked, so I heard.
> > >
> > >  > Zach
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