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I agree. To enable the root account on ubuntu "sudo passwd root"<BR>
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Rick<BR>
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On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 08:22 -0500, Michael Greene wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">I like Ubuntu for the same reasons Benjamin mentioned.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Also, to the sudo complainers, is it really that hard to sudo passwd</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">and be done with it? I understand that you don't like Ubuntu changing</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the paradigm, but it works better for many of the people with whom</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I've walked through Ubuntu. None of these users would have maintained</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">seperate administrator and regular users accounts in Windows,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">switching between when they needed to, because this would have been a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">hassle. However, most understood the exposure to prompts for a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">password to execute a single operation, since this happens in both XP</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">and OS X, depending on personal configurations.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">RH7->Mandrake->Gentoo->FC->Ubuntu, and I think I'm staying here for awhile.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Michael</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">On 5/4/06, Benjamin Flanders <<A HREF="mailto:flanderb@gmail.com">flanderb@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I switched to Ubuntu from Mandrake. I don't mind sudo. I like the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> idea of sudo from a multiuser standpoint, but you are right, for a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> (mostly) single user based distro it seems a little redundunt. I can</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> mess up my machine just as easily with sudo as I can with su.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I liked Ubuntu because of apt and the popularity of the distro creates</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> a lot of really nice documentation and howto's on the web. I need</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> this simple to follow type of documentation:)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> On 5/4/06, Matthew Whitaker <<A HREF="mailto:matthew.whitaker@haworth.com">matthew.whitaker@haworth.com</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > I have to say that I firmly agree with David on this one. The last time I</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > installed Ubuntu I was really frustrated with the no root, just use sudo</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > aspect of it. I really prefer simply logging in as root at times. It's</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > true I have screwed things up that way, but live and learn - Ubuntu's model</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > was simply too annoying for me.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > I am pretty firmly in the Debian camp for desktops right now, with my</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > preference for servers being RedHat (at least for the time being).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 08:45 -0400, David Pembrook wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Any distro without clutter is a good thing but... (I'm gonna gripe here</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > now...)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > I tried ubuntu a couple of weeks ago. It installed easy enough. As easy as</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > anything else I think.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > I don't like how they tried to remove the su to root concept (there is no</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > root password so you can't "su" and must use sudo). I got done with my</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > install and was scratching my head like a lot of other uses thinking "they</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > never asked for my root password". I know what they are trying to do and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > anyone with experience can "fix things" and go back to using "su" to manage</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > their box in no time. If you screw your box up as root, well.. geesss.. of</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > course thats your fault... but let me make my mistakes LOL.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Does it bother anyone else that they are changing things like that? I</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > happen to like god mode... root is one place I still have control in my life</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > LOL</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > For my 2 cents on a good distro, I've fallen into the Debian camp now...</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > give me a debian net install cd anytime! I must have my apt. Goodbye redhat</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > and fedora!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Oh and I love simply mepis for a live cd linux. Any other good new live cd</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > linuxes out there?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Dave</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Jordan Hudson wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > I love debian, but ubuntu gives me everything I like about debian without</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > the clutter. I used suse for a while, but I found the same clutter as I</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > found in debian. Mandriva was not for me at all, and xandros was like</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > windows with a linux kernel (not good at all, stay away!). I like kanotix,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > but I want something more permanent. I'm thinking of trying slax or mepis</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > (simply or otherwise), any thoughts on those 2 distros? I love distros!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > On 5/3/06, Raymond McLaughlin <<A HREF="mailto:driveray@ameritech.net">driveray@ameritech.net</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > zdennis wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > Congratulations! I am sure you will have a long and successful</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > relationship with fedora,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > although I prefer debby myself. ;)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > So did Ian, but then they forked, so I heard.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
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