[GRLUG] Itunes and France

[Jordan Hudson]

I dont have any problems getting music bought from the iTunes store to work
on my rio mp3 player, you just have to make sure that you convert it to mp3
format. Maybe the people in France just dont know how to change formats? =)
I'm on of these geeks that loves apple, but not for the iPod at all. I love
apple computers, and I'm into digital audio recording so its a good fit for
me, because I haven't found much in the recording scene for linux, other
than audacity. I feel in no way locked into my apple products, and I also
have a PC that runs linux. I share files all the time, you just have to know
what formats to use.

On 7/2/06, david at pembrook.net <david at pembrook.net> wrote:
>
> We can all see that the current laws need some serious work and I agree in
> principal with a lot of whats has been said but I don't agree everything
> must be in the public domain.
>
> Open source is about choice and freedom is it not? I have many choices
> right now (thankfully in a large part to open source). One of my choices
> is to buy into a propritary system if I choose to. Once I do, I know what
> the deal is. If MS or Apple want to change things, so be it... those are
> the rules in the proprietary world. You play there , you play with those
> rules.
>
> A lot of here use products every day from both camps. Some by choice, some
> because their companies tell them too. Someone made that choice either way
> and they have to live with that.
>
> If you don't like the kid down the streets rules, don't play with his
> toys.
>
> Thats all I'm saying... I don't want my freedom to choose or create a
> proprietary work taken from me.
>
> That said, I don't like monopolies, I like open standards, I'm all for
> sharing code and information.
>
> Dave
>
>
> > David Pembrook wrote:
> >> But are you saying that a company does not have a right to make
> >> something and own it? I love open source and thats a choice for me and
> >> many others. But if I make something the world wants, do they have a
> >> right to it by demanding it from me? Are intelectual rights obsolete?
> >>
> >
> > According to our patent and copyright laws: No.
> >
> > That may seem bad, but those laws reflect HOW new works are created -
> > namely new works aren't "created".  When an author writes a story, a
> > musician writes music, a programmer developers software, they all dip
> > into the public domain.  They all use prior art to build their works
> > on.  They are less "creators" and more "builders".  They take what's
> > already been done and rearrange it, use it differently and make
> > something different.
> >
> > We add to the mix the fact that monopolies have been proven to be bad
> > things.
> >
> > So the patent and copyright laws were created to balance the bad (i.e. a
> > limited monopoly for a limited time) with the good (i.e. getting access
> > to new works and making money for their builders).
> >
> > The concept of "Intellectual Property" never existed until recently.
> > This concept lets the co-called "creators" treat their ideas as property
> > - with all the rights included with that.  Like ownership after death.
> > Like being able to pass the ownership of that idea on to your heirs.
> > This is inherently wrong with anything intellectual.  Ideas are not
> > physical and ownership of them causes long term problems (like nearly
> > all the issues we are having with patent trolls and copyright hogs).
> >
> > And I'll remind you what the government did with Standard Oil and AT&T.
> >
> > --
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