[GRLUG] Need Security/Linux Expert for a talk

[Michael Mol]

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
<awilliam at whitemice.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 16:02 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Adam Tauno Williams
>> <awilliam at whitemice.org> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 15:47 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Casey DuBois <casey at grlug.org> wrote:
>> >> > Hey GRLUG,
>> >> > I'm wanting to do a joint GRLUG / GR-ISSA meeting and am looking for a
>> >> > linux security expert to give the talk.
>> >> > Who's interested?
>> >> Might I suggest you try to get two people involved:
>> >> 1) An expert in the 'attacker' space. (i.e. a penn tester.)
>> >> 2) An expert in the 'defender' space. (i.e. a seasoned sysadmin who's
>> >> dealt with security concerns.)
>> >> Penn testers are single-focused, while the sysadmin has to think about
>> >> larger pictures. IMO, you'd really need both for proper chemistry in a
>> >> good presentation.
>> > +1  I've sat through quite a few 'security' presentations.  Most blew
>> > right past their audiences, or at best it wasn't clear how to use the
>> > information presented [other than "hire us"].   "Security" is such a
>> > broad swath of topics, and depending on the type of organization and
>> > size is approached so many ways, it is hard to address generally in a
>> > meaningful / practicable way.
>> I was thinking of you when I was thinking 'seasoned sysadmin'. Maybe I
>> just want to see you call the other guy's BS, and then see him call
>> yours. It would be a very entertaining way to spend an evening. :)
>
> Could be fun.  But for the record I've never referred to myself as a
> "security expert", or for that matter, an "expert" on anything.

Anyone who describes themselves as an expert probably doesn't deserve the title.

>
> I'm just not certain what I'd have to offer that a GR-ISSA person would
> be interested in; they are big corporate theory, regulation, and
> expensive tools guys.  I'm a hammer and wrench guy.  No hate, but I'm
> not clear what the overlap is.  My security 'advice' is all pretty basic
> stuff.

That's why I envisioned you for bringing your debate partner (as it
were)'s head out of the clouds.
-- 
:wq