[GRLUG] A Moment of Silence

Sat Sep 10 17:52:11 EDT 2011

Sigh.  At one point Sun the same
advantage as Apple - a great OS,
and a controlled set of hardware.

I had a Sparc 5 at home for years,
and a Ultra 1 at work.  A class act
all the way around.

    -- Bob

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:18 PM, <scott.tanner at comcast.net> wrote:

> OpenSolaris is officially dead, too bad as it had some great promise and
> features (like the SMF).  There's also Nexenta (www.nexenta.com) which
> fuses the OpenSolaris kernel with debian user-land.  I had a nightmare of a
> time getting it to run on my computers.
>
> We have quite a few x86-based Sun fire servers, and they're top-notch in
> terms of remote management, build quality and ease of maintenance. Far
> better than Dell and HP ( at least they were a couple of years ago).  I've
> been dealing with Oracle support for the past 2 weeks on what started as a
> simple dead fan on an x4240, and its been ridiculous. At one point I had the
> canned "We don't support CentOS, so we can't help you".  I now loathe
> Oracle.
>
> I ran Sun workstations and servers throughout the late 90's and early
> 2000's, as well as SGI, HP and IBM ( and a couple of Dec's).   Sun
> definitely had the cost-advantage, but hardware wise they were all about
> equal.  Maybe I was just exceptional at finding machines weaknesses?
>
> Regards,
> Scott
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Dave Brondsema" <dave at brondsema.net>
> *To: *grlug at grlug.org
> *Sent: *Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:31:17 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [GRLUG] A Moment of Silence
>
>
> On 09/08/2011 01:57 PM, Bob Kline wrote:
> > I had Sun machines at work when
> > they were still called "workstations."
> >
> > Solaris was indeed a wonderful OS.
> > Too bad Sun didn't make it open source
> > before Oracle got hold of it....
> >
>
> I thought they did, OpenSolaris.  It doesn't look like it's active any
> more, but there are some forks.
>
> > How much of the reliability would you
> > attribute to Sun's hardware?  Pretty
> > clearly an OS can't totally shine running
> > on junk iron.
> >
> >     -- Bob
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Philip J. Robar <philip.robar at gmail.com
> > <mailto:philip.robar at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Ben Rousch wrote:
> >
> >     > I would like to ask for a moment of silence. I just decommissioned
> my
> >     > company's main Samba virtual machine which had been running Ubuntu
> >     > 6.06 LTS since 2006.
> >
> >     At Sun we regularly heard about machines that had been running for
> >     years. Solaris is so reliable that smaller customers have forgotten
> >     where their servers are. One story, perhaps apocryphal, told of a
> >     small server that got walled up when a room was rearanged and had to
> >     be found by breaking through the wall board. A field support person
> >     once found a machine in a closet that was so clogged with dust that
> >     the fans were no longer spinning, but it still running happily.
> >
> >     I wouldn’t be surprised if AIX or HP/UX were similarly as reliable,
> >     but I’m pretty sure that SGI’s IRIX couldn’t make similar claims:
> >
> >     A friend of mine (also an ex-Sun person) early on in his new job as
> >     VP of Eng. at an Internet Bubble Startup* asked the founder, “I’ve
> >     noticed that the SGI servers panic rather regularly. Has anyone
> >     looked into this or called SGI?”
> >
> >     Founder, “No need to worry, they just do that. And they were free."
> >
> >     My friend’s head then exploded.
> >
> >
> >     Phil
> >
> >     *Bigfoot for those of you with long memories.
> >
> >
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