[GRLUG] AT&T's U-verse DSL service

Bob Kline bob.kline at gmail.com
Thu May 26 16:07:51 EDT 2011


I just installed a Motorola model SB6120
DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem.  I called Comcast,
supplied the model, customer S/N, and the
MAC address.  Later I power cycled the
router, and was up and going.  The whole
thing took 15 minutes, including all my
running back and forth between the phone
and the setup.

Later, a "return kit" will arrive to send the old
unit back - one I've rented for 7 years.

The rental fee went from $3 a month to $5,
and shortly thereafter, to $7, for same old
modem.   The new on cost about $84 from
Amazon.  At the $7 a month rate, the payback
time is a year, and I have an up to date modem.
I did a quick check, and it's faster too.  I'll
do some more tests during lighter traffic times
of the day, but already I'm getting faster
bit rates than ever before.

   -- Bob


On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Dave Brondsema <dave at brondsema.net> wrote:

> On 05/19/2011 01:18 AM, Bob Kline wrote:
> > Curious.  I have the 16 Mbps residential
> > service, and the upstream rate is about
> > 3.5 Mbps up, based on speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net>.
> >
> > I'd almost think an improvement of 10X
> > is almost some kind of mistake on Comcast's
> > part - it's hard to understand an improvement
> > that big.  You're in West MI?
>
> Yep
>
> >
> > Re the modem,  I currently have a DOCSIS 2.0
> > cable modem owned by Comcast.  What was
> > involved in setting yours up?
>
> My prior modem was owned also (not rented).  I called them and told them
> I had a new cable modem.  I gave them the model & mac address.  It's
> possible they also optimized something on their end at that time also
> which helped the speeds.
>
> >
> >     -- Bob
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Dave Brondsema <dave at brondsema.net
> > <mailto:dave at brondsema.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     After upgrading my cable modem [1] I consistently get 9-10 Mbps
> upload
> >     speed with comcast residential (according to speedtest.net
> >     <http://speedtest.net>).  It was
> >     only ~1 Mbps before that.  The download speed increased a little bit
> too
> >     - but not nearly so significantly.
> >
> >     [1] upgraded to Motorola SB6120 SurfBoard
> >     http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UI2FPE
> >
> >     On 05/18/2011 09:43 PM, Brad Becker wrote:
> >     > Running a web server favors more upstream bandwidth, so why
> >     > would download bandwidth be all that important when my guess is 2
> Mbps
> >     > is around the best upstream anyone can get around here short of
> >     > commercial/business grade.  Frankly I'd gladly give back 1/2 my
> >     download
> >     > bandwidth (most of it wasted) for 1 Mbps more on the upside.  Few
> >     > servers can dish out the download bandwidth capability most people
> >     have,
> >     > but then again providers know this as their own form of throttling.
> >     >
> >     > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:mikemol at gmail.com>
> >     > <mailto:mikemol at gmail.com <mailto:mikemol at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     It'll really depend on if you're doing things like running a
> web
> >     >     server, if you're making your own files available to yourself
> from
> >     >     elsewhere (and where a service like DropBox is less
> >     appropriate), etc.
> >     >
> >     >     For example, I might run rosettacode.org
> >     <http://rosettacode.org> <http://rosettacode.org>
> >     >     from home if I had a
> >     >     reasonable Internet connection for it. It'd be nice to not
> >     need to pay
> >     >     twice as much per month just to have twice as much RAM
> >     available to
> >     >     me.
> >     >
> >     >     On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Jonathan Jesse
> >     <jjesse at gmail.com <mailto:jjesse at gmail.com>
> >     >     <mailto:jjesse at gmail.com <mailto:jjesse at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >     >     > Perhaps a silly question but why the need for such high
> >     bandwidth?
> >     >      I am a uverse customer with middle of the road level of
> Internet
> >     >     connection and I don't notcie the lag getting my workmdone from
> >     >     home, watching the occasional video on vimeo or YouTube.
>  Netflix
> >     >     runs fine as well for me.... Trying justify the cost of
> increased
> >     >     bandwidth when I mostly do some streaming, lots of email and
> web
> >     >     browsing and chatting on irc
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Sent from my iPad
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On May 18, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Adam Tauno Williams
> >     >     <awilliam at whitemice.org <mailto:awilliam at whitemice.org>
> >     <mailto:awilliam at whitemice.org <mailto:awilliam at whitemice.org>>>
> wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >> On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 16:29 -0400, Dan Pilcheck wrote:
> >     >     >>>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Matthew Seeley
> >     >     <matthew at threadlight.com <mailto:matthew at threadlight.com>
> >     <mailto:matthew at threadlight.com <mailto:matthew at threadlight.com>>>
> >     >     >>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >>>>>> I have the 24m Uverse service in Jenison.
> >     >     >>>>>> At first, it was excellent. Got 22m down on off hours,
> and
> >     >     18m down on
> >     >     >>>>>> peak times. Was that way for the first two - three
> months.
> >     >     >>>>>> Then, AT&T went door-to-door and signed up everyone in
> the
> >     >     apartment
> >     >     >>>>>> complex.
> >     >     >>>>>> Now I only get 10m down on peak times, and 14m down on
> off
> >     >     hours. (Even
> >     >     >>>>>> when paying for the '24m' plan though)
> >     >     >>> Bob (Et al.), Sorry if I'm taking this to far off topic
> >     for the
> >     >     thread;
> >     >     >>> What about Comcast Business at the home?
> >     >     >>> IIRC its been touched on here, but I couldn't dig up
> anything
> >     >     relevant.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> I had AT&T business class DSL to my home for a long time
> (this
> >     >     includes
> >     >     >> static IPs, a router, etc...).  Performance was very good.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> But U-verse (which also includes TV) and a Linode is
> actually
> >     >     cheaper.
> >     >     >> You still get an always-on static IP hosts (the Linode)
> >     that isn't on
> >     >     >> your power bill - and you can run server's without
> >     violating your
> >     >     >> EULA.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> It is also quite handy to OpenVPN from
> >     >     whatever-crappy-network-I'm-on to
> >     >     >> the Linode.
> >     >     >>
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