[GRLUG] ISP shopping

Wed Jun 22 14:34:32 EDT 2011

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Michael Passer wrote:

> Speakeasy's not at all what they used to be. I had used them for years and
> saw them impose soft caps in the wake of their acquisition by Best Buy. They
> also started charging the USF even though they weren't paying into the
> Universal Service Fund--which while I understand is a common business
> practice (add a new charge and pretend it's a tax) but wasn't what I
> expected from them at the time.
> Unless there's a very specific need for something they do that another ISP
> doesn't, I'd pick a local provider over Speakeasy any day now.
> 
> Michael

That makes me sad, they were cool.  :(

> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
>       Hi Mike --
> What do you mean by Comcast's
> 2nd or 3rd tier?  Unless something
> has changed recently, 16Mbps 
> residential service is the highest
> performance available in the GR area.
> 
> Never mind that it says it is on Comcast's
> website.....
> 
> Comcast does support DOCSIS 3 modems
> now, even though it will happily rent you a
> DOCSIS 2 unit at a current price of $7 a month.
> 
>    -- Bob
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>       Difficult question. I don't know the normal costs for this
>       kind of service.
>
>       Under the assumption that the copper itself is going to
>       cost me $30/mo
>       to keep up, I'd probably look for $10-20/mo per channel
>       beyond that.
>       So, for two channels and all desired services, $80-$100/mo
>       total
>       outlay. Easily negotiable depending on adding/removing
>       services. (if
>       the services I want aren't doable at these rates, I'd
>       negotiate on the
>       services first, prices second)
>
>       I could possibly sacrifice IPv6 and stick with tunneling
>       there, but
>       native is easily preferable.
>
>       I obviously wouldn't need more than one IPv4 address, but
>       if I get
>       native IPv6, I could likely do without native IPv4. That
>       reduces ISP
>       pressure on their available pool of IPv4 IPs.
>
>       As long as the tech support is competent and communicable
>       (meaning
>       something like Comcast's 2nd or 3rd tier. AT&T residential
>       doesn't
>       have *anything* resembling decent tech support), could go
>       with
>       per-ticket support fees (waived in the case of it being
>       the ISP's
>       issue, rather than my own configuration or equipment
>       idiocy) instead
>       of monthly payments supporting free support calls.
>
>       I'm willing to do a 1-year contract to hit my target rate.
>
>       If it's somehow possible to squeeze three channels into
>       that price
>       range(that'd depend on keeping the copper live costing
>       less than
>       $30/mo, obviously), I'd get a lot more flexible on the
>       other service
>       details.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Richard Maloley II
> <richard at rrcomputerconsulting.com> wrote:
> > What are you looking to spend/budget?
> > Richard Maloley II
> > Rick and Richard Computer Consulting
> > p: 616-745-6914
> > e: richard at rrcomputerconsulting.com
> > w: http://www.rrcomputerconsulting.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Michael Mol
> <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm shopping for an ISP for home. Not going to touch Comcast
> or
> >> U-verse for this. U-verse because I don't like their router,
> and
> >> Comcast because the local loop's bandwidth will be shared
> with too
> >> many other local customers.
> >>
> >> * Channel bonded ADSL. Probably just two channels. I'd be
> looking for
> >> 5-6Mb down per channel. I currently get about 5Mb down with
> the single
> >> channel I've got.
> >> * IPv6 connectivity (either via allocated subnet, or via RAs
> from
> >> upstream)
> >> * IPv4 connectivity (non-static IP is fine)
> >> * Low jitter (I intend to run VOIP; I've got my own Asterisk
> servers
> >> and trunking providers already)
> >> * Self-maintained router on my end; tell me the protocols and
> >> connection details to use, and I'll keep my end running.
> >>
> >> Anyone have good leads for this kind of thing? If it works
> nicely
> >> enough, I might be able to successfully pitch it to work,
> where we've
> >> got no coax, but enough copper to suggest there used to be a
> Centrex
> >> setup there.
> >>
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