[GRLUG] Dropped from mailing list.

Ben Rousch brousch at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 07:14:19 EDT 2009 

I see you! There just hasn't been much discussion on here lately.

Of course, that is easy to fix.

Top post FTW!

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:39 AM,  <peyeps at iserv.net> wrote:
> I've not received any emails lately.   Did I get dropped from the mailing
> list?
>
>            Thank You,
>
>                Greg
>
>
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>>    1. Re: VirtualBox question (John-Thomas Richards)
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>>    3. Re: VirtualBox question (John-Thomas Richards)
>>    4. Re: VirtualBox question (John-Thomas Richards)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:51:40 -0500
>> From: John-Thomas Richards <jtr at jrichards.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
>> To: grlug at grlug.org
>> Message-ID: <20090305175119.GA4121 at jrichards.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:05:37AM -0500, Bill Littlejohn wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:14 AM, John-Thomas Richards
>>> <jtr at jrichards.org>wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:43:11PM -0500, Bill Littlejohn wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> > > Sure - just copy the partition to a different drive.
>>> > > There are a couple of ways I can think of.
>>> > > What I would do requires an external USB hard drive of equivalent
>>> (or
>>> > > larger) capacity to your laptop hard drive.
>>> > > Boot from a live-cd, then dd your laptop drive to the USB drive.
>>> This
>>> > will
>>> > > overwrite anything on the USB drive with the copy.
>>> > > Setup your VM and connect the USB drive to it. You should be able to
>>> boot
>>> > > the restore partition from there.
>>> > > I assume the drivers would be somewhat borked since it's likely
>>> preloaded
>>> > > with your laptop hardware drivers. You'll want to install the
>>> virtual
>>> > > hardware drivers as soon as possible to straighten things out.
>>> > > Bill
>>> >
>>> > Here is what I have done so far.  I created a 30GB virtual disk
>>> (should
>>> > be more than enough for what I need; once this is up and running I can
>>> > delete another sizable virtual disk that I will no longer need, thus
>>> > freeing up more disk space).  I then booted into that virtual machine
>>> > with a Knoppix iso and created two partitions; one 10GB partition to
>>> > hold the restore files and one 20GB partition to hold the operating
>>> > system and applications.  I was able to format both partitions with
>>> > NTFS.  I downloaded a Vista Recovery Disk iso that boots to install
>>> from
>>> > the restore partition.  It works up to the point it looks for the
>>> > recovery files on the recovery partition.  The problem is it cannot
>>> find
>>> > the files on the restore partition since they are not there yet.  For
>>> > the life of me I cannot figure out this shared folders thing with a
>>> > Linux host and a Linux guest (since I need to copy the files first).
>>> > The VirtualBox user manual is not very helpful on this point.
>>> > --
>>> > john-thomas
>>>
>>> I haven't used the shared folders feature, but certainly you would have
>>> to
>>> install the V.B. tools into the running livecd environment for it to
>>> work. I
>>> used an external USB drive instead.
>>> You can't access your system /dev/sda1 partition directly from the VM,
>>> because your running your system off that disk - thus the need to make a
>>> copy of the partition.
>>> Assuming you have an external drive with enough free space attached as
>>> /dev/sdb, you could do
>>> "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1/restore.img"
>>> If you wanted to write the image to your home folder and then get folder
>>> sharing working, then you could do
>>> "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/home/me/restore.img"
>>> After you have the image file, and can access it from the VM, then just
>>> do
>>> the reverse _in the VM_ to write it to the virtual disk partition. i.e.
>>> "dd
>>> if=/dev/sdb1/restore.img of=/dev/sda1"
>>> Be sure you understand where dd is reading and writing before executing
>>> the
>>> commands - it can hose your system quickly if you reverse the commands.
>>> "man
>>> dd"
>>> Bill
>>
>> VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support.  I am running the
>> latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE).  I have the restore partition on a
>> USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access them.
>> I am trying to figure out shared folders.  Once I have the files copied
>> to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>>
>> Thanks for the help!
>> --
>> john-thomas
>> ------
>> There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it.
>> Marcus Tullius Cicero, "Ad familiares"
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:46:20 -0500
>> From: "Adam M. Erickson" <adam at openfad.com>
>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
>> To: grlug at grlug.org
>> Message-ID:
>>       <7cd69fdf0903060846k58c0f64fv6ec78eb75d11b3d3 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>>
>>> VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support. ?I am running the
>>> latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE). ?I have the restore partition on a
>>> USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access them.
>>> I am trying to figure out shared folders. ?Once I have the files copied
>>> to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>>>
>>
>> The newest release seems to be the easiest to control USB
>> connectivity. You have to choose in advance what can be accessed by
>> the virtual system. If you do not select all or individual usb drives,
>> by name, they will not pick them up by the virtual system.
>>
>> Make sure you installed the additional tools shared folders and will
>> not work with out it.
>>
>> I like this new release you do not have to escape the mouse to use it
>> on the host system any more.
>>
>> - Adam M. Erickson
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:07:55 -0500
>> From: John-Thomas Richards <jtr at jrichards.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
>> To: grlug at grlug.org
>> Message-ID: <20090306170755.GA6268 at jrichards.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:51:40PM -0500, John-Thomas Richards wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:05:37AM -0500, Bill Littlejohn wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> > I haven't used the shared folders feature, but certainly you would
>>> have to
>>> > install the V.B. tools into the running livecd environment for it to
>>> work. I
>>> > used an external USB drive instead.
>>> > You can't access your system /dev/sda1 partition directly from the VM,
>>> > because your running your system off that disk - thus the need to make
>>> a
>>> > copy of the partition.
>>> > Assuming you have an external drive with enough free space attached as
>>> > /dev/sdb, you could do
>>> > "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1/restore.img"
>>> > If you wanted to write the image to your home folder and then get
>>> folder
>>> > sharing working, then you could do
>>> > "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/home/me/restore.img"
>>> > After you have the image file, and can access it from the VM, then
>>> just do
>>> > the reverse _in the VM_ to write it to the virtual disk partition.
>>> i.e. "dd
>>> > if=/dev/sdb1/restore.img of=/dev/sda1"
>>> > Be sure you understand where dd is reading and writing before
>>> executing the
>>> > commands - it can hose your system quickly if you reverse the
>>> commands. "man
>>> > dd"
>>> > Bill
>>>
>>> VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support.  I am running the
>>> latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE).  I have the restore partition on a
>>> USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access them.
>>> I am trying to figure out shared folders.  Once I have the files copied
>>> to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help!
>>> --
>>> john-thomas
>>
>> I was able to get the shared folders working.  I had to actually install
>> an operating system into one partition since I needed to load an .iso
>> with the necessary files (a LiveCD is a mounted CD; you get one or the
>> other).  I was able to copy the files to the new recovery partition
>> (within the VM).  I added the partition to GRUB and was able to boot the
>> recovery installation.  I believe I am now at a complete standstill as
>> the installer is unable to find my disk so the install fails.  Bleh.
>>
>> It was a good idea, I suppose.  Bill, thanks for all your work in trying
>> to figure this out.
>> --
>> john-thomas
>> ------
>> I place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and
>> public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. To preserve our
>> independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
>> Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826)
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:10:43 -0500
>> From: John-Thomas Richards <jtr at jrichards.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
>> To: grlug at grlug.org
>> Message-ID: <20090306171043.GB6268 at jrichards.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 11:46:20AM -0500, Adam M. Erickson wrote:
>>> > VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support. ?I am running the
>>> > latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE). ?I have the restore partition on
>>> a
>>> > USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access
>>> them.
>>> > I am trying to figure out shared folders. ?Once I have the files
>>> copied
>>> > to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>>> >
>>>
>>> The newest release seems to be the easiest to control USB
>>> connectivity. You have to choose in advance what can be accessed by
>>> the virtual system. If you do not select all or individual usb drives,
>>> by name, they will not pick them up by the virtual system.
>>>
>>> Make sure you installed the additional tools shared folders and will
>>> not work with out it.
>>>
>>> I like this new release you do not have to escape the mouse to use it
>>> on the host system any more.
>>>
>>> - Adam M. Erickson
>>
>> The version in Debian is the latest release (2.1.4).  It is the Open
>> Source Edition that has trouble with USB drives.  I could download the
>> non-OSE version, but I run Debian for a reason.  ;-)
>> --
>> john-thomas
>> ------
>> The Lord prefers common-looking people. That is the reason He makes so
>> many of them.
>> Abraham Lincoln, 16th president of the U.S. (1809-1865)
>>
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