[GRLUG] wmlug meeting

Tue Feb 24 17:26:02 EST 2009

Thanks for the clarification.  That will teach me to read more carefully. 
I would have ended up fifty miles from where I should have been.

I'll keep my eyes open for the next GRLUG meeting.

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>    1. Re: Next Meeting. (Ben Rousch)
>    2. Re: auto mount (Topher)
>    3. Re: auto mount (Ben Rousch)
>    4. Re: auto mount (John-Thomas Richards)
>    5. Re: auto mount (Topher)
>    6. Re: auto mount (Adam Tauno Williams)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:07:13 -0500
> From: Ben Rousch <brousch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next Meeting.
> To: grlug at grlug.org
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> Thursday's meeting is for the WMLUG (West Michigan Linux User's
> Group), which is affiliated with neither the GRLUG nor the Western
> Michigan University LUG (if one exists).
> http://www.wmlug.org/
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> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:39 AM,  <peyeps at iserv.net> wrote:
>> I seem to remember seeing somewhere that grlug does not have a meeting
>> site right now, but there was going to be a meeting at the wmulug site
>> this Thursday.
>>
>> The latest meeting information on the Wiki is for September of Last
>> year.
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: Topher <topher at wcsg.org>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] auto mount
> To: grlug at grlug.org
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>>> Anyone know how that might work, and whether it's already out there?
>>
>> You mean like this?  http://packages.debian.org/lenny/autofs
>
> You'd think, but I'm not so sure.  I followed the directions here:
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127
>
> When I plug in my device, it doesn't auto mount.  I tailed
> /var/log/syslog, and it makes no mention of even trying to use autofs when
> I plug in the device.  It sees the device just fine, but autofs doesn't
> kick in.
>
> According to this: http://www.greenfly.org/tips/autofs.html  I should see
> stuff like this:
>
> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[31302]: attempting to mount entry
> /var/autofs/removable/cdrom
> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: lookup(file): looking up cdrom
> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: lookup(file): cdrom ->
> -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/cdrom
> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: parse(sun): expanded entry:
> -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/cdrom
>
> I don't get any of that.  Any ideas?
>
> Topher
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:35:12 -0500
> From: Ben Rousch <brousch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] auto mount
> To: grlug at grlug.org
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> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Topher <topher at wcsg.org> wrote:
>>>> Anyone know how that might work, and whether it's already out there?
>>>
>>> You mean like this? ?http://packages.debian.org/lenny/autofs
>>
>> You'd think, but I'm not so sure. ?I followed the directions here:
>> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127
>>
>> When I plug in my device, it doesn't auto mount. ?I tailed
>> /var/log/syslog, and it makes no mention of even trying to use autofs
>> when
>> I plug in the device. ?It sees the device just fine, but autofs doesn't
>> kick in.
>>
>> According to this: http://www.greenfly.org/tips/autofs.html ?I should
>> see
>> stuff like this:
>>
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[31302]: attempting to mount entry
>> /var/autofs/removable/cdrom
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: lookup(file): looking up cdrom
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: lookup(file): cdrom ->
>> -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/cdrom
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: parse(sun): expanded entry:
>> -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/cdrom
>>
>> I don't get any of that. ?Any ideas?
>>
>> Topher
>
> Doesn't HAL handle this sort of thig?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_(software)
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:54:28 -0500
> From: John-Thomas Richards <jtr at jrichards.org>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] auto mount
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Message-ID: <20090224145428.GA17360 at jrichards.org>
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> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 09:29:36AM -0500, Topher wrote:
>> >> Anyone know how that might work, and whether it's already out there?
>> >
>> > You mean like this?  http://packages.debian.org/lenny/autofs
>>
>> You'd think, but I'm not so sure.  I followed the directions here:
>> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127
>>
>> When I plug in my device, it doesn't auto mount.  I tailed
>> /var/log/syslog, and it makes no mention of even trying to use autofs
>> when
>> I plug in the device.  It sees the device just fine, but autofs doesn't
>> kick in.
>>
>> According to this: http://www.greenfly.org/tips/autofs.html  I should
>> see
>> stuff like this:
>>
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[31302]: attempting to mount entry
>> /var/autofs/removable/cdrom
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: lookup(file): looking up cdrom
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: lookup(file): cdrom ->
>> -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/cdrom
>> Jan 27 10:05:41 clover automount[5729]: parse(sun): expanded entry:
>> -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid :/dev/cdrom
>>
>> I don't get any of that.  Any ideas?
>
> I have two ideas.  Is autofs running?  `/etc/init.d/autofs start'
>
> Have you defined the automaps?  When starting autofs, do you get a
> message similar to:
>
> rondo:~# /etc/init.d/autofs start
> Starting automounter: no automount maps defined.
> rondo:~#
>
> ?
>
> See this: http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:59:05 -0500 (EST)
> From: Topher <topher at wcsg.org>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] auto mount
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0902241158550.16183 at topher-desktop>
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>>> I don't get any of that.  Any ideas?
>>
>> I have two ideas.  Is autofs running?  `/etc/init.d/autofs start'
>
> Yes.
>
>> Have you defined the automaps?  When starting autofs, do you get a
> message similar to:
>>
>> rondo:~# /etc/init.d/autofs start
>> Starting automounter: no automount maps defined.
>> rondo:~#
>>
>> ?
>
> I have made the automaps, and I don't get that error.
>
>> See this: http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs
>
> That didn't help much.  I think I'm going to stick to the "press the mount
> button" option.  It's not auto, but it's still pretty fast.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:38:46 -0500
> From: Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam at whitemice.org>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] auto mount
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Message-ID: <1235497126.4940.3.camel at linux-m3mt>
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> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:13 -0500, Roberto Villarreal wrote:
>> On Monday 23 February 2009, Topher wrote:
>> > There's a feature that Gnome has that I want outside of gnome.
>> > When you plug in a USB drive or something, some part of gnome
>> > notices, and mounts it.
>> > I want that, but I don't use gnome.  I'm quite comfortable finding
>> > the id's of my devices and mounting by hand, and most of my common
>> > ones I put in fstab, so it's not all that bad to just do mount -a
>> > and it takes care of it.
>> > But it seems like if Gnome can do it, there should be something
>> > that can do it at the system level as well.
>> > Anyone know how that might work, and whether it's already out
>> > there?
>> KDE does this same thing too.  Doing a quick google search on how KDE
>> does it says this:
>> "KDE can also auto mount devices, working with HAL (Hardware
>> Abstraction Layer). Your distribution should have set up HAL
>> automatically; if not, consult the documentation provided by your
>> distribution."
>> (http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/userguide/multimedia.html)
>> I guess that's where you would start...
>
> Both GNOME and KDE accomplish this via HAL hooks.  Without a session
> manager of some kind it will have to work differently.  And for FAT
> filesystems and the like the system needs to mount the volumes with
> specific ownership/permission mapping (again you need a session
> manager).
>
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