[GRLUG] Upgrading Firefox

[Steve Romanow]

Im sorry, you dont really think U loco's attrbute any technical prowess to sbdafl?  Generous Businessman, yes, but we know better.  Sorry for top post, at barber on phone...

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam at whitemice.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:32 PM
To: grlug at grlug.org
Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Upgrading Firefox



>>> Like Suse, Ubuntu is geared toward newbies. 
> > I don't believe either distribution is geared toward newbies,  I do
> > believe some people associated with each distribution believe that >
> they are. :
> Ubuntu is geared towards mainstream users; Linux for human beings, not
> kernel-compiling cyborgs. I've noticed that many hardcore Linux guys
> have problems with getting Ubuntu to behave with crufty old programs
> like minicom

I'd hardly call minicom crufty and old,  it is basically the only
program to access serial devices such as modems.

> or with non-mainstream desktop environments like Fluxbox
> or Awesome. In my opinion, people who need these things should be
> running something less "friendly", like Debian. If you want a Linux
> that is easy to install, update, and use for everyday tasks, then
> Ubuntu is the right one for you! 

Er?  Ubuntu is Debian with a face-lift.  Personally I wouldn't wish
Debian upon people I strongly dislike.  Ubuntu does go a very long way
to addressing Debian's wartiness and is a very good distro for
mainstream users -  my specific objection was to its "better package
management".  It isn't superior to much unless you are comparing it to
antique RPM systems.  Once-upon-a-bygone-time DEB did have some
technical advantages over RPM.  At this point yum/apt/zypper
[Fedora/Debian(Ubuntu)/openSUSE] are so close in capacities as to be
*theoretically* interchangeable (ugly implementation details would
probably devour anyone crazy enough to actually try).

If you want a distribution where hardware works out-of-the-box and is
easy to use for everyday use then openSUSE is the distribution for you!

Or use Ubuntu which is good too.

It doesn't really matter much since they are 99.44% the exact same
software [although try explaining that to an Ubuntu fanboy who thinks
Shuttleworth sat down and single-handedly developed X11 one lazy summer
afternoon]. 

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