[GRLUG] gmailfs question

Matt Michielsen mattmichielsen at gmail.com
Wed Aug 19 10:46:46 EDT 2009


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Steve Romanow <slestak989 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Bob Kline wrote:
>> > I have just over 21,000 messages,
>> > which is about 3.3GB out of an
>> > allocated 7.3GB.
>> >
>> > Leading me to ask just what mounting
>> > does.  If I want to do a backup I presume
>> > I have to actually make a copy to a local
>> > directory.  i.e., I've mounted a file system
>> > on Google's machine.
>> >
>> > Re POP,  I'm game,  but will have to ask
>> > you for a small word salad about how to
>> > do it....
>> >
>> > Re FUSE,  the man page for mount.gmailfs
>> > does mention that the kernel must support
>> > the FUSE file system.
>> >
>> > But nothing more....
>> >
>> >     -- Bob
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Bob Kline<bob.kline at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I mounted my gmail.com contents using, as root:
>> >>>
>> >>> mount -t gmailfs none /mount-point  -o
>> >>> usrname=me,password=my_password,fsname=secret_word
>> >>>
>> >>> It mounted fine, apparently.  i.e., no errors.
>> >>> And the size matches what I see on gmail.com
>> >>> when I log in.
>> >>>
>> >>> But when I attempt to list the contents, using
>> >>>
>> >>> ls  /mount-point
>> >>>
>> >>> I get
>> >>>
>> >>> ls: cannot open directory.  .: No space left on device
>> >>>
>> >>> Huh?  My hard drive has plenty of space
>> >>> left.  And so does my gmail account.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can anyone tell me what this might mean?
>> >>>
>> >> How many emails are in your account?  It's possible it bumped up
>> >> against some resource limit internal to the userspace component of the
>> >> FUSE filesystem.  I'd have to look at the source code.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> For that matter, has anyone else tried mounting
>> >>> a gmail file system?  What should the contents
>> >>> look like?
>> >>>
>> >> No idea...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Why am I doing this?  To look for large messages
>> >>> to delete.  Unlike Yahoo email,  gmail does no tell
>> >>> you message sizes.
>> >>>
>> >> I keep a home backup of my GMail account via POP.  If you were to do
>> >> something like that, you could see the email sizes that way as well.
>> >> (I'm not saying using FUSE is a bad idea, mind you, just offering an
>> >> alternate approach.)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> :wq
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>> I use Tbird via imap for my gmail and I can view size data.  With the
>> large size of your data, first sync could be painful, but likely doable.
>>
>>
> My original goal was to simply be
> able to look at the gmail files with
> the objective of eliminating very large
> ones - typically those with a number of
> large images, or things like wmv files,
> which can chew up storage space rapidly.
> I'm actually comfortable with the notion
> of Google storing and backing up the
> material, but, unlike Yahoo mail, for
> example, gmail does not offer anything
> like a concept of unlimited space - just big
> for starters.  So I just wanted to be able
> to see the file sizes, which Yahoo mail
> does display.  I could just look for the
> little clips signifying attachments, but
> was hoping for something faster.  With
> the file system mounted it could have
> been much faster to find them with a
> simple bash script.
>
> I'm still curious about the error message
> saying out of space, and in digging around
> find I'm not the first to encounter this.  So
> that's still an open issue, if not a very
> urgent one.  Maybe someone with less
> than 21K messages can try to mount the
> gmail file system and see if the same thing
> happens.
>
> BTW,  Comcast is now showing two more
> tiers of service.  "Ultra," which is nominally
> 22 Mbps down, and 5 mbps up.  Then there
> is the "Extreme" service with 50 Mbps down,
> and 10 Mbps.  I've checked for my area,
> zip code 49508, and it simply says "coming
> soon."  Anyone find it available in their area?
>
> One can only imagine what these will cost.....
>
>     -- Bob
>
>
In the advanced search options, there's a checkbox for "Has Attachment".
You could try using that.

I don't think gmailfs allows you to see email as files anyway....

-mm
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