[GRLUG] Now I;m getting a bit ticked.

[John-Thomas Richards]

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:53:52AM -0500, John-Thomas Richards wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:43:58AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Tim Schmidt <timschmidt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, there's the problem.  Typically I'd say something like "Yes -
> > > all of the above.  Combined wisdom of the community and all that"...
> > > but what we're talking about here is a systemic dumbing of the
> > > community on average.  So I don't know.  When churn is low, new users
> > > can be socialized by the existing group remarkably easily, but when
> > > new users outnumber greybeards, I suspect a more active approach
> > > toward education is necessary.  We can look toward other organizations
> > > for clues...  Churches operate on much the same principles as LUGs...
> > > weekly sermons, low churn = easy socialization, and a church which
> > > rapidly looses or gains a significant membership often finds it's
> > > identity challenged.  No clues there.  :-/  Any other ideas?
> > 
> > A solution in this case may be to point out to the individual in
> > question that, no, the problem isn't "everyone else", it's them.  They
> > need it spelled out that they need to learn that they've encountered a
> > community, that they need to learn how to appropriately interact with
> > that community, and that if they don't, they'll be ignored either by
> > having their messages skipped over or by being ejected from the
> > mailing list entirely.  Churches also have excommunication.
> 
> Yes, but prior to excommunication Jesus said to go to the individual one
> on one and try to get him/her to correct his/her behavior.

And, I should have pointed out, the goal of excommunication/discipline
must always be restoration to the community and not simply ostracization.
-- 
john-thomas
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