[GRLUG] new Comcast mail blocking?

Greg Folkert greg at gregfolkert.net
Tue Dec 16 10:25:35 EST 2008


On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 09:51 -0500, David Pembrook wrote:
> Greg Folkert wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:17 -0500, Don Wood wrote:
> >   
> >>> I agree it's stupid, but it's not the same thing as draconian new laws.
> >>> Censorship is what *governments* do, not businesses.  If I own a radio
> >>> station and I don't want to play any songs about drunken brawls in
> >>> bars,
> >>> that ain't censorship.  It's my business and I choose which products to
> >>> offer and in what manner to offer them.  If the government tells me I
> >>> cannot play songs about drunken brawls in bars, that is censorship and
> >>> completely unacceptable.  As much as I dislike what Comcast is doing,
> >>> it's their business.  I could always get DSL or U-Verse.
> >>> --
> >>>       
> >> Ah, but not everyone has that choice. Not unless you're willing to lose 80%
> >> of your bandwidth to switch to DSL. They've been doing a lot of bad things.
> >> They need to participate in net neutrality. If I had *ANYTHING* similar to
> >> their speeds where I live I'd be gone. 
> >>     
> >
> > I also would be gone. Speeds similar at even twice the cost and I would
> > be gone.
>
> I was getting very nice speeds with TDS DSL (5000/768 package I believe 
> and I got 90+% of rated speed). I only dropped them because I was 
> trimming finances and didn't need a home phone line. They provide good 
> customer support and they didn't block any ports, not even port 80 
> incoming. I had a plan with 5 static ip's on a residential package even. 
> I'm not sure thats offered anymore but I have nothing but good things to 
> say about them. I do miss them.

My problem is distance from the CO. I am at 19,900 effective cable feet
from the CO. Even though I'm really 14K wire feet.

This means I cannot have anything from a DSL provider except iDSL... or
DSL over ISDN (Dual-B+D channel) at 144Kbits/sec. Which using DSL over
that reduces the effective speed to about 128Kbits/sec.

Heck, I'd have to pay for the ISDN and DSL service. I'd rather just pay
for an ISDN ISP service and get 144Kbits/sec... with my own ISDN modem
(I have 3 already)

I'd be perfectly happy with AT&T's Uverse except for the fact limiting
is coming into play already, and AT&T does have the direct line to the
CIA/NSA thing... so my comfort level isn't very good. In general my
comfort level isn't very good on these things.
-- 
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