[GRLUG] grlug Digest, Vol 20, Issue 24

Thu Nov 8 20:53:09 EST 2007

Finally, a discussion that I feel that I can contribute to.....hehehe

I have been using <a href-"www.opendns.com">Open DNS</a> for the past
6 months.  I absolutely love it.  I love it so much that I sent emails
out to all of my friends, family members, local churches and schools
as a means to filter out unwanted content.

It took minutes to set up, and did not require any kind of install.
Also it is absolutely free to use.  Another benefit is that you can
control it remotely.  It already has categorized many websites into
adult themed, and gore to name a few.  You can choose to block these
sites, as well as maintain your own black and white lists.  I have
joked with my wife, that if she buys one more thing from ebay, that I
am going to start blocking it from coming to our house.

So if you are looking for a good solution that requires little
maintenance, I would definitely recommend giving Open DNS a look.

Carlus

On Nov 8, 2007 2:23 PM,  <grlug-request at grlug.org> wrote:
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> From: "Ben Rousch" <brousch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Web filter for kids?
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> > Yeah, I know of an excellent one. It's foolproof even. It's called
> > parents. ;-) Seriously... Content filtering is a losing game. It never
> > seems to work right. Things always slip through the cracks. On top of
> > that, you either trust your kids on the net (which I wouldn't... I was a
> > teenager once) or you supervise. I suppose you might want some sort of
> > content filtering in case they accidentally get to somewhere bad.
> > Still, this is a losing game. I don't care how good you think your kids
> > are kids will try to get to places they shouldn't and content filters
> > tend to work worth dog crap. Just my incredibly sunshiny opinion. ;-)
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
> Your opinion is spot-on when applied to adults (in the workplace) and
> teenagers, who will actively attempt to defeat filters. But I think a
> content filter for a young child is a good thing until he can understand the
> difference between places he is allowed to go and places he should not be
> going. The age when that happens will be different for each child. I think a
> whitelist is good for very small children, a strict porn/gore filter is
> appropriate for pre-teens, and hopefully he will have a sense of right and
> wrong by the time he is a teenager and able to hack around whatever you put
> in front of him.
>
> I have been thinking a lot about this subject because my first child is
> currently overdue by five days.
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> From: Collin Kidder <adderd at kkmfg.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Web filter for kids?
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> > Your opinion is spot-on when applied to adults (in the workplace) and
> > teenagers, who will actively attempt to defeat filters. But I think a
> > content filter for a young child is a good thing until he can
> > understand the difference between places he is allowed to go and
> > places he should not be going. The age when that happens will be
> > different for each child. I think a whitelist is good for very small
> > children, a strict porn/gore filter is appropriate for pre-teens, and
> > hopefully he will have a sense of right and wrong by the time he is a
> > teenager and able to hack around whatever you put in front of him.
> >
> > I have been thinking a lot about this subject because my first child
> > is currently overdue by five days.
> >
> Yes, sorry... It does really depend on the age of the child. For any kid
> over 12 I'd say filters are worthless. For younger kids it could be a
> decent idea but I wouldn't let a 7 year old surf the net by themselves
> anyway.
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> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:10:55 -0500
> From: "Ben Rousch" <brousch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Web filter for kids?
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> > Yes, sorry... It does really depend on the age of the child. For any kid
> > over 12 I'd say filters are worthless. For younger kids it could be a
> > decent idea but I wouldn't let a 7 year old surf the net by themselves
> > anyway.
> > _______________________________________________
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> Maybe I'm naive and overly optimistic, but I hope that by age 7 my child
> will have the moral fiber and tech skills to surf the (porn/gore filtered)
> web without my constant supervision. Personally, I think IM will be a bigger
> problem than web surfing.
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> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:26:12 -0500
> From: "Justin Popa" <tehpopa at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Web filter for kids?
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> I know everyone here is talking about why content filtering shouldn't be
> needed, but I have a tip on what you can look into. It's called squid, and
> it's mainly used as a proxy. You could even set up a different ruleset per
> user as to what's granted. Setup is a bit tricky, but once it's set up it's
> good to go. The upside is too that you can use it on other PC's in the
> house. What's even more is that there are some freeware apps to check the
> logs as well. We use a shareware app at our office called iam that gives us
> a 1000 foot view of all traffic use.
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 2:10 PM, Ben Rousch <brousch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> > > Yes, sorry... It does really depend on the age of the child. For any kid
> > >
> > > over 12 I'd say filters are worthless. For younger kids it could be a
> > > decent idea but I wouldn't let a 7 year old surf the net by themselves
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> > Maybe I'm naive and overly optimistic, but I hope that by age 7 my child
> > will have the moral fiber and tech skills to surf the (porn/gore filtered)
> > web without my constant supervision. Personally, I think IM will be a bigger
> > problem than web surfing.
> >
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