[GRLUG] Ubuntu 7.10

[Ben Rousch]

I have not experienced problems with Firefox in Gutsy. I usually have two or
more instances with 3-15 tabs open in each and leave them open sometimes for
a week or more. My only plugin is Flashblock, so it may well be plugins that
are responsible for your woes.

On 11/1/07, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've seen problems with Firefox
> under 7.04 if I leave it up long
> enough.  Seems to depend on what
> I'm doing with Firefox.  Number of
> windows, and maybe what's in them.
>
> Sometimes it will go a long time
> without problems,  and other times
> I'll get a hard wedge.  The screen
> locks up.  I reboot, because I don't
> have a separate terminal hooked up,
> but it does come to that.
>
> Sad.  Control of memory leakage
> has long been a hallmark of Unix
> and Linux.  Using the supplied
> memory control routines you wonder
> how the application writers get it
> wrong.  But then,  I suppose Firefox
> could be tight,  and the plugins are
> the problem?   There are lots of them,
> and who knows who wrote some of
> them.
>
>     -Bob
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2007 4:45 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > On 11/1/07, Bob Kline < bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It's been a couple of weeks now
> > > since the launch,  does anyone here
> > > have anything good to say about
> > > Ubuntu 7.10 ?
> > >
> > > Many of the reviews have been
> > > quite bullish.  I'm running
> > > Kubuntu 7.04 now,  and have so
> > > far taking an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
> > > approach.  But I'd hate to miss out on
> > > anything either....
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I actually wrote a second review on my blog, earlier this week.
> > Here's the text:
> >
> > So I've been using it a couple weeks, now, and I figured it was a good
> > time to give it a second look.
> >
> > I've had to leave Compiz enabled, because without it, It becomes a
> > hassle to have both Firefox open and watch videos using mplayer.
> > (Firefox hogs X11's XV extension, thanks to the flash plugin. Compiz
> > seems to perform the functional equivalent of providing a separate
> > copy of the extension to anyone who asks for it.) As a result, I've
> > learned a bit about its behavior.
> >
> > The alt-tab behavior is nice. I realize some of you more advanced
> > folks (Including OS X users and Linux folks using experimental window
> > managers as far back as 2002) have had window previews in your
> > window-switching service for a while. Sure, yeah, it's a convenient
> > feature if you've got multiple windows from the same app loaded. (Web
> > development with Firefox would be a lot easier if I had this at work.)
> > At home, that's not really an issue for me.
> >
> > What's really nice is how passing through the alt-tab list draws the
> > window immediately to the foreground, before I let go of alt-tab.
> > (FWIW, all my apps are full-screen at home, so I don't know if the
> > window order is permanently adjusted as I pass through.) Now, on
> > Windows, this would be a problem. Each time a portion of a window
> > becomes visible, Windows sends the application a paint message to get
> > it to redraw itself. At work, when my box was churning over one thing
> > or another, or waiting on some silly user-global lock (Damn you Visual
> > Studio, damn yooou!), I could watch the application ponderously fill
> > in the window with information.
> >
> > In Gutsy Gibbon, with Compiz enabled, the screen contents just flip to
> > the window, pre-drawn. (If I had to guess, I'd think the window never
> > knew it was covered.) The screen changes quickly enough that the new
> > data appears to be there right at the start of the screen's next
> > vertical refresh.
> >
> > Also, there's a neat feature for dealing with unstable applications.
> > If the application "stops responding", to steal a phrase from the
> > Windows world, the window desaturates until it's wholly in grayscale.
> > That way, you know why it's not doing what you thought it was doing.
> > This doesn't seem to work entirely, though. I was scrolling through
> > Google Reader--albeit painfully slowly--when the window desaturated. I
> > hadn't stopped scrolling, and the window was still updating, but the
> > window manager decided for some reason that the window had stopped
> > responding. However, it corrected itself, and resaturated the window
> > after I stopped rolling the scroll wheel on my mouse.
> >
> > However, Firefox seems to have taken a hit. It's weird. Up until a
> > couple weeks ago, I never had noticeable stability problems with
> > Firefox, at work or home, despite both machines being low-end (3GHz or
> > 2.2GHz P4s, respectively, though the work machine has 2GB of RAM and
> > the home machine only has 512MB/). In contrast, it's run slow or
> > crashed three times in the last week. This is only at home, though. My
> > box at work is still running strong. The obvious answer is that
> > Firefox's memory leaks are likely coming into play earlier on my home
> > box.
> >
> > And I'm still irritated that I can't play StepMania. That might change
> > this weekend, though.
> >
> >
> > --
> > :wq
> >
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