[GRLUG] openSuSE 10.1 & Freespire Concept

[Collin]

Well, arch is as lightweight or bloated as you want it to be. Rather 
than provide you with a bunch of packages on CD you have to explicitly 
want the packages and download them from the repository. It really is 
sort of like Gentoo except that the repository, by and large, is full of 
already compiled apps instead of source (though, there is a user 
maintained source repository with many more packages than the official 
binary repositories).

One thing I'd caution people about... Arch tends to be rather on the 
cutting edge and it's easy to get into a situation where you've got some 
work to do to get everything working. For instance, they recently 
switched to XOrg 7 and the big switch from 6.X to 7 caused some problems 
initially.

Jordan Hudson wrote:
> yeah, I've read alot about arch, is it lightweight too or is it 
> resource heavy? I've been toying with Damn Small Linux alot lately, 
> I'm kinda lovin it. I've never been a big fan of fluxbox, I'd rather 
> see xfce, but fluxbox is alot smaller.
>
> On 5/16/06, *Collin* <adderd at kkmfg.com <mailto:adderd at kkmfg.com>> wrote:
>
>     I use Arch Linux. That, of course, is one that no one has talked about
>     yet. That's probably because it's basically Gentoo without the
>     compiling. It's not exactly a super user friendly version of
>     linux. You
>     are supposed to install it via a minimal install and then use it's
>     custom package tool (pacman) to get everything you need. Most all
>     of the
>     display managers are available (KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, etc).
>
>     And actually, you only get away from compiling if you want things that
>     are in the official package tree. Theres a user package tree that
>     people
>     can add to that basically encapsulates a source tgz with a description
>     of how to compile it in arch (sort of like what gentoo does). I think
>     Arch is a good compromise between gentoo and the more friendly
>     versions
>     of linux. You still need quite a bit of linux knowledge to use it
>     because it makes few attempts to hold your hand but it's very
>     configurable, fast,  and not as annoying as gentoo (having to compile
>     absolutely everything gets old fast.)
>
>     If you get the chance I'd recommend trying something like Arch or
>     gentoo, at least for education's sake. ;-) It really teaches you to
>     figure out where configuration files are kept and how to hand edit
>     them.
>     That comes in handy for running servers where the general rule is
>     'thou
>     shalt not run KDE or Gnome.'
>
>     Shawn McCuan wrote:
>     > What is it that you didn't like about Linspire? (other than the UI -
>     > keep in mind it is just KDE...so, the theme can be changed....lol)
>     >
>     > IMHO, I think that Xandros is really attempting to be a Windows 2000
>     > clone...so, no go for me there...and its just plain slow.
>     >
>     > I use openSuse as my primary distro :) And I frequently "toy" with
>     > Gentoo...I can do stage3 installations w/o a problem, but, I
>     still cant
>     > quite get a stage1or stage2 to work...lol...
>     >
>     >
>     > Jordan Hudson wrote:
>     >
>     >> linspire was worse than Xandros, so I probably wont use freespire,
>     >> they just look to windows-esque for me. Xandros was the biggest
>     pain ever.
>     >>
>     >> On 5/15/06, *Shawn McCuan * <metiosarius at linspirenetwork.com
>     <mailto:metiosarius at linspirenetwork.com>
>     >> <mailto:metiosarius at linspirenetwork.com
>     <mailto:metiosarius at linspirenetwork.com>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     Hey,
>     >>
>     >>     I was just wondering what you guys have thought of the
>     recent Suse
>     >>     Linux
>     >>     10.1 release (which I really like - I have been a long time
>     SuSE
>     >>     user -
>     >>     Yast is awesome...even though SuSE uses *cough*rpm*cough*
>     instead
>     >>     of the
>     >>     superior *deb package management system)
>     (http://www.opensuse.org)
>     >>
>     >>     I am a little irritated that SuSE dropped support for
>     RaLink WLAN
>     >>     cards
>     >>     though...even though I have found a way to get it working by
>     >>     installing
>     >>     the manufacturers drivers...They are supposed to be
>     releasing an
>     >>     "official" patch sometime in the future for this...
>     >>
>     >>     Also, what do you guys think about the Freespire project?
>     >>     ( http://www.freespire.org)
>     >>
>     >>     Thanks!
>     >>
>     >>     Shawn McCuan
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