[GRLUG] Distro's - was GRLUG test comment
adamb at glaven.org
Thu May 4 15:48:02 EDT 2006
Sorry to respond to my own post, but I think I have a good (if nothing
else, funny) analogy:
Using 'root' is like being a cop, running around the city with guns
drawn, locked, and loaded. Using sudo is like being barney fife in
Mayberry: Gun is available, but bullets are in his pocket.He's got to
think, and be deliberate when he makes a decision to use his gun.
Adam bultman wrote:
> It comes down to people liking to traipse around as root.
> When you use sudo, you need to do things on purpose - sudo this, sudo
> that, and after a while, it's irritating. It's much easier to su - root,
> and just run around and do what you want, but you lose the 'thinking
> about what you're doing' factor.
> I discourage fellow admins from running around as root, since people
> *do* make mistakes, and that prompt for a password on the sudo command
> has saved me multiple times. Similarly, I've been present when someone
> running around as root does something horribly dumbassed, and I've got
> to help clean up, if not do it all.
> First thing I do on my ubuntu boxes is set a root password. That way, I
> can clean up any filesystem damage if it drops to a shell when booting.
> If I have a few things to do, I use sudo. If I have a few commands in a
> string I need, I do 'sudo bash'. If I want to run around as root, I'll
> just do 'sudo su - ' and become root, do my tasks, and then be done with
> it. Time spent running around as root per month: Perhaps 3 minutes.
> Time spent using sudo: Very large.
> Tim Schmidt wrote:
>> On 5/4/06, David Pembrook <david at pembrook.net> wrote:
>>> I was playing around with distro's that day.. I remember it looked good and
>>> I had to fix it. I hacked mine to operate as I expect it to. My only point
>>> No matter how you slice it, the root user is taken away by default and
>>> replaced with sudo. I use sudo on other systems when I want to and su to
>>> root when I want to.
>>> Again every issue I have with it can be addressed, its Linux. Its personal
>> I'm sorry Dave, I don't follow your logic... You have /root, you have
>> a way to escalate privileges, what are you missing? Exactly what can
>> you not do with sudo as efficiently or effectively as you can with su?
>> How are you doing things differently?
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