[GRLUG] linux meetup

Michael Mol mikemol at gmail.com
Tue Jul 4 17:49:06 EDT 2006 

It's the Web 2.0, user-supplied content concept.

I don't like the idea of wiki-as-homepage.  While it makes the site
easy to update, I feel it does so too much--you have to plan for
things like vandalism.

What about a solution somewhere in-between, like Wordpress or
Slashcode?  Or even (ack!) phpBB?  That way, a few trusted users can
have write access to the front page, while everyone can submit
moderated content.

I'm not suggesting doing away with the Wiki, but giving it a
supporting role, instead of a leading role.

On 7/4/06, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> Long gone?   I do my own web sites in HTML, and
> see no particular reason to change.
>
> I wonder what I'm missing?  I do try to keep the
> content/fluff ratio high.  Meaning that content
> trumps glitz.  Maybe that's it?  I need a flashier
> web site.  Then maybe I can worry less about
> what's in it.
>
> Anyway,  what makes you say "long gone?"
>
>    -Bob
>
>
> On 7/4/06, Szymon Machajewski <smachaje at grcc.edu> wrote:
> > I would suggest that we go easy on a custom design.
> >
> > The key is how to keep the web site up to date.  With Wiki we can
> > distribute the load of updating.
> >
> > Maybe someone can get into making the look of our mediawiki more
> > custom, but I think the days of html files for websites is long gone.
> > Why create a site which sooner or later will become a bottle-neck
> > again.
> >
> >
> >
> > Szymon Machajewski
> >
> > Solutions Engineer / DBA
> > Red Hat Certified Engineer
> > Microsoft Certified Solution Developer
> > www.grcc.edu/smachaje
> >
> >
> > >>> mikemol at gmail.com 7/4/2006 3:42:52 am >>>
> > I've got some time...I put together the current incarnation of
> > grc4.org, which will be replaced once my guy finishes the final
> > layout.  I'm no HTML and CSS expert, but I can read W3C specs.
> > However, my overal design skills are, shall we say, underdeveloped.
> >
> > So...what needs to be there? Some thoughts:
> > * Who are we? (Someone else should probably write that blurb)
> > * Meeting info
> > * Announcements
> >
> > Here's a rough mock-up of what it might look like:
> > http://theforge.us/sc/grlugsite.png
> >
> > (Sheesh...for how long that took, I might have been better off doing
> > it in HTML in the first place.)
> >
> > On 7/4/06, Godwin <geektoyz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sure we can make the wiki page the home page for now.  I'm somewhat
> > > partial to home-brewed looking sites (nice ones with css) as opposed
> > > to cookie-cutter ones, but my web design time is being taken up at
> > the
> > > moment.  :-)
> > >
> > > If/when a good web designer surfaces, maybe we can maintain both.
> > >
> > > G-
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/2/06, Szymon Machajewski <smachaje at grcc.edu> wrote:
> > > > Godwin,
> > > >
> > > > You've made a call for a web developer in the past.  Why don't we
> > take
> > > > the wiki as the home page for now.  This would defuse the need for
> > one
> > > > developer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Szymon Machajewski
> > > >
> > > > Solutions Engineer / DBA
> > > > Red Hat Certified Engineer
> > > > Microsoft Certified Solution Developer
> > > > www.grcc.edu/smachaje
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >>> mikemol at gmail.com 7/2/2006 1:05:28 am >>>
> > > > One more thing.  When I first noticed GRLUG a year or two ago, I
> > > > thought it was dead.  The website hadn't been updated in ages.
> > Even
> > > > now, there's not much to look at, and the only active content is
> > > > passively active; there's nothing about a wiki that makes one want
> > to
> > > > check back for updates.
> > > >
> > > > Simply choosing some colors and linking to a .CSS file would help,
> > but
> > > > the old announcements should probably be removed.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any web developer natives around here?
> > > >
> > > > On 7/2/06, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Looking at the list, there seem to be a large number of casual
> > > > users,
> > > > > as opposed to Linux-using professionals.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not that I can get a complete feel for GRLUG after attending one
> > > > > meeting, but the casual side of Linux did seem lacking.  (But
> > maybe
> > > > an
> > > > > after-one-meeting impression is needed.)  Clustering filesystems
> > are
> > > > > useful from an administrators standpoint, and fascinating to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, the average home-user of Linux is going to be more
> > > > interested
> > > > > in what games are available, or how to get 3D acceleration for
> > their
> > > > > ATI or NVidia card, or where to find a Linux distro that takes
> > > > > advantage of x86-64.
> > > > >
> > > > > I expect that within a year or two, people are going to be
> > asking
> > > > how
> > > > > to use Linux for everyday home tasks. (How do I run TurboTax on
> > this
> > > > > Linux system my grandson set up?  How do I write my English paper
> > on
> > > > > this computer I got for cheap?  How do I PRINT?!)
> > > > >
> > > > > If people are interested, I'd be happy to demo the proprietary
> > and
> > > > OSS
> > > > > ATI drivers, and the proprietary NVidia driver.  I could show
> > off
> > > > many
> > > > > of the games that were developed for Linux, or ported to Linux.
> > > > >
> > > > > But that's really not the kind of thing that struck me as a
> > focus
> > > > > point for GRLUG, after attending one meeting.  And if that's what
> > it
> > > > > looks like to someone who sat through it and asked questions,
> > what's
> > > > > it going to look like to someone whose interests are entirely
> > > > > consumer-oriented?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/1/06, Szymon Machajewski <smachaje at grcc.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > I don't see this as a new club.  This is not about a 'club'
> > but
> > > > > > networking people of the particular interest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think having people on both lists makes sens.  A new person
> > > > looking
> > > > > > for Linux contacts may find meetup.com before they stumble on
> > > > grlug.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also we had rather humble turnout at the meetings so putting
> > more
> > > > > > advertising of GRLUG meetings online in various places may be
> > > > > > beneficial.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Szymon Machajewski
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Solutions Engineer / DBA
> > > > > > Red Hat Certified Engineer
> > > > > > Microsoft Certified Solution Developer
> > > > > > www.grcc.edu/smachaje
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> bob.kline at gmail.com 7/1/2006 10:36:49 pm >>>
> > > > > > This is a group of people that don't find GRLUG what
> > > > > > they want?  Or don't know about GRLUG?   I see at
> > > > > > least one person that has appeared in the GRLUG
> > > > > > messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I looked at the site,  but still am not too sure what
> > > > > > the point is.  Are they looking for a new club to form?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     -Bob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/1/06, brad <brad0002 at ameritech.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > For anyone interested in this group.
> > > > > > > http://linux.meetup.com/cities/us/mi/grand_rapids/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad
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