[GRLUG] An ISP question
David Pembrook
david at pembrook.net
Fri Aug 11 15:08:13 EDT 2006
For big fast files... try:
ftp://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/5/i386/iso/FC-5-i386-DVD.iso
I've always loved the TDS mirrors
wget ftp://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/5/i386/iso/FC-5-i3
--15:05:52--
ftp://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/5/i386/iso/FC-5-i386-DVD.iso
=> `FC-5-i386-DVD.iso'
Resolving fedora.mirrors.tds.net... done.
Connecting to fedora.mirrors.tds.net[216.165.129.141]:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /pub/fedora-core/5/i386/iso ... done.
==> PORT ... done. ==> RETR FC-5-i386-DVD.iso ... done.
Length: -1,041,297,408 (unauthoritative)
[
<=> ] 70,036,864 890.87K/s
Bob Kline wrote:
> I've played these games over the years.
> When I lived in NJ four years ago, our
> ISP goofed, and uncapped our service.
> For many months we had the full DOCSYS
> limit: 10Mbps down, and 800 Kbps up.
> I know this because I could upload large
> files of known size to the ISP's customer
> web space, and coming down, the gnu.org
> site from MIT seemed to have no cap. There
> too I could download large packages of known
> size, and the speed was always in the 9.6
> to 9.8 Mbps range.
>
> Hog heaven until the ISP discovered its
> mistake. As I mentioned, my web hosting
> service might have its own upload limit -
> I will check in to this. But even gnu.org does
> not seem to provide even 8Mbps rates any
> more, so testing high download rates is a
> problem.
>
> Or of course it could be Comcast, as
> mentioned in a previous note. If so, why
> they would sell an 8Mbps service, and
> cap it at a rate lower than that, would be
> a story worth knowing about. It could be
> a mistake, and it could be something else.
>
> Others with Comcast might want to see
> what they are actually getting. Using
> FTP, a file of known size, and a watch,
> is the most fundamental way to do it.
>
> Re 1.5Mbps T1, having the symmetric
> bandwidth has its own appeal. Too bad T1
> lines never really came down much in
> price. But then, symmetric bandwidth is
> always expensive, no matter what it's
> based on.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> On 8/11/06, David Pembrook <david at pembrook.net> wrote:
>
>> At that speed you may be able to see how fast other people's pipes are as
>> well. I know companies that host their customers on a single T1 (1.5/1.5).
>> This is perfectly fine if they aren't over utilizing their pipe and don't
>> handle a lot downloads.
>>
>> If you want to see your single connection best speed, try downloading a
>> Linux ISO from a close by EDU ftp server. Unless things have changed, they
>> don't tend to cap them. I don't see over 500k/sec down on my dsl so I can't
>> test it.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Michael Mol wrote:
>> On 8/10/06, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have the Comcast 8M / 800K package.
>> Independent of the time of day, I get
>> something like 6Mbps down from some
>> sites, and typically 640Kbps up to my
>> web hosting site, using FTP.
>>
>> Now, if I use two or more FTP jobs to
>> transfer data to/from my web hosting site
>> I invariably get the full 8M / 800K. I
>>
>> 'm just curious why this would be. I'm
>> temped to say it's not Comcast, since
>> I do get the full rates under certain
>> circumstances. Why my web hosting
>> site would limit a single stream to 640Kbps
>> up, if it is, I have no idea - I will contact them
>> and ask.
>>
>> In the mean time, any thoughts here, or
>> similar experiences?
>>
>> Would "certan circumstances" be such where the data transfer consisted
>> of multiple data streams? (Like download accelerators and p2p
>> clients?)
>>
>> Comcast might have a cap on the throughput of individual TCP streams.
>> Seems likely, especially if they expect customers to have more than
>> one simultaneous user to a particular account. It would certainly make
>> for an easy way to keep one user from hogging all the bandwidth, and
>> thus reduces complaint calls about "My internet is slow!"
>>
>>
>>
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