<div dir="ltr">I have a cheap "Test-Um" brand toner you can use whenever. I am Southeast in Caledonia.<div><br></div><div style>Mark</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Dave Chiodo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:megadave@gmail.com" target="_blank">megadave@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, as it turns out he already has cat5e run to phone jacks in the<br>
rooms he needs to connect to.<br>
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Currently there are only RJ-12 jacks with one pair connected, so I am<br>
going to look up appropriate snap-in RJ-45's he can get to replace<br>
those.<br>
<br>
What would be really useful would be a tone/probe trace set so we can<br>
identify each drop, and also verify the lines going to his outside NIU<br>
since he wants to relocate his DSL modem. Does the LUG (or anyone)<br>
have one available to borrow?<br>
<br>
Also, RJ45 jacks generally come with a cheap plastic 110-style pusher,<br>
but if anyone had a real punchdown tool with a 110 bit available for<br>
borrow that would make a much better connection.<br>
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM, desert frag <<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thanks for the invite but have a prior engagement unfortunately. I've been<br>
> in conversation with Dave Chiodo off list who actually works quite close to<br>
> where I live and would probably let him quarterback this if he's so<br>
> inclined. Once the details are worked out I'll get back.<br>
><br>
> ps It's amusing to refresh that web site. If it's of any consolation I am<br>
> color neutral on cat cabling :)<br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Michael Mol <<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: desert frag <<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a>>; "Mailing List for LUG in greater<br>
> Grand Rapids, MI area." <<a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:15 PM<br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] cable installation<br>
><br>
> I made an offer to look at Steve's house, suggested he come to GRMakers<br>
> tonight to discuss it. Might I make the same suggestion for you?<br>
><br>
> (Though I'm terrified this might turn into a bikeshedding[1] event...)<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="http://www.bikeshed.com/" target="_blank">http://www.bikeshed.com/</a><br>
><br>
> On 03/27/2013 12:05 PM, desert frag wrote:<br>
>> I appreciate all the interest. It's the beer, right? :)<br>
>><br>
>> The patch panel sounds like a good idea ... nothing like doing it right.<br>
>> You're certainly invited to stop over to assess the situation and I<br>
>> certainly understand the need for flexibility. The basement is part<br>
>> open, part drywall. I wouldn't mind if we had a smaller group show up.<br>
>> If larger then its Pabst, not Founders :)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> *From:* Dave Chiodo <<a href="mailto:megadave@gmail.com">megadave@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> *To:* desert frag <<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a>>; "Mailing List for LUG in<br>
>> greater Grand Rapids, MI area." <<a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a>><br>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:54 AM<br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [GRLUG] cable installation<br>
>><br>
>> In the past I've run miles of cable in an old<br>
>> factory-converted-to-office-building in downtown GR. It was on-demand,<br>
>> ad-hoc, as different tenants decided to obtain service from the ISP in<br>
>> the building that I worked for, so it wasn't beautiful - lots of stuff<br>
>> zip-tied to pipes and conduit or tucked in crevices:)<br>
>><br>
>> I've also run cat5 to various rooms in my own house. (finished<br>
>> basement, so some ugliness)<br>
>><br>
>> If you are aiming for fully wiring the house for future flexibility,<br>
>> I'd suggest a patch panel at a central location for everything to<br>
>> terminate to.<br>
>><br>
>> I'd be happy to help, but I'd have to work around my work schedule.<br>
>><br>
>> And to be honest it sounds like there's already plenty of help on<br>
>> board. I think if 20 people show up there's going to be more tripping<br>
>> over each other than pulling cable :P<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:40 AM, desert frag <<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> Existing home, roughly 8 years old. It's a ranch house plus basement and<br>
>>> there appears to be cable tv wiring leading to just about every room<br>
>> in the<br>
>>> house.<br>
>>><br>
>>> ________________________________<br>
>>> From: Dave Chiodo <<a href="mailto:megadave@gmail.com">megadave@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:megadave@gmail.com">megadave@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>>> To: desert frag <<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a>>>;<br>
>> "Mailing List for LUG in greater<br>
>>> Grand Rapids, MI area." <<a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a>>><br>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:36 AM<br>
>>><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] cable installation<br>
>>><br>
>>> This for new construction or retrofit in existing house?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:31 AM, desert frag <<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:desertfrag@yahoo.com">desertfrag@yahoo.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Ok I'm game. If some of you would like to cable my house as a project<br>
>>>> I'll<br>
>>>> provide the materials & beer, plus contribute $100 to GRLUG, conditioned<br>
>>>> on<br>
>>>> having it done by April 30th plus the usual liability waiver. Else I'll<br>
>>>> contact George.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>> From: Steve Romanow <<a href="mailto:slestak989@gmail.com">slestak989@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:slestak989@gmail.com">slestak989@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>>>> To: "Mailing List for LUG in greater Grand Rapids, MI area."<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a>>><br>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:21 AM<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] cable installation<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I see a tie in with mike mols tool library idea to have a makers barter<br>
>>>> board webapp for needs.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Just post I need X and anyone has the desire/time/skill/referral can<br>
>>>> post<br>
>>>> and the bartering can begin.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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