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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Freedom and Choice are both largely
      true of Android, Open webOS, Firefox OS, Meego, and Tizen. 
      Cross-platform app design is true of Open webOS, Firefox OS, and
      Tizen, as well as probably others.  I don't mean to put them down
      for contributing to more Freedom and Choice, but as much market
      share as webOS lost, which for a while was well-supported by
      carriers, had a large Palm fanbase behind it, and sold reasonably
      well, Ubuntu Phone OS has a huge uphill battle ahead of them to
      develop a user base capable of sustaining a project like that into
      the future.<br>
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      My $0.02, for what it's worth.<br>
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      - Kyle<br>
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      On 01/03/2013 10:03 AM, John Wesorick wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Freedom. Choice. Truly cross-device app design. It
        doesn't need to be successful in an x% of marketshare way. We,
        as Linux users, got pretty excited when we had 1-2% marketshare
        on the desktop. TBH, I'm more excited about Ubuntu for Android,
        but I'm definitely going to try this out once they release the
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:53 PM,
          Jonathan Jesse <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jjesse@gmail.com" target="_blank">jjesse@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">Why?  This is the question I'm asking....
               What will make this device successful in the tight market
              that is already dominated by Android and iOS with
              Blackberry and Windows Phone trailing in 3rd place.  I
              don't think the "geeks" will rush out to adopt this phone
              as there seems to be declining excitement in things
              Canonical/Ubuntu related.
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                There doesn't seem to be a committed carrier either
                which I think won't drive adoption as well.  If they
                can't get VZW or AT&T selling/pushing this phone
                then it will have even worse traction in the US than
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              <div>Or is it all an Europe/Asia thing? </div>
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                <div class="im">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM, John
                  Wesorick <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                  wrote:<br>
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                      <div>So Ubuntu announced their Mobile OS today.
                        Not the Ubuntu for Android, but a full
                        OS. Here's a link to the video, <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://youtu.be/cpWHJDLsqTU?t=6m30s"
                          target="_blank">http://youtu.be/cpWHJDLsqTU?t=6m30s</a>
                        I had read that they will be releasing images
                        for Nexus devices in the coming weeks. Anyone
                        else thinks it's worth a try?</div>
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