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Oh, I don't disagree at all. I think it's quite a cool project and
will probably end up buying one (or something like it) myself
someday.<br>
<br>
What I object to is the artificial barrier the thought of it seems
to be building in peoples' minds against them achieving their goals
right away.<br>
<br>
And keep in mind this is coming from a guy who really misses the
days when you could walk into a local electronics store and buy a
4017, so I may be a little biased toward building things myself. :)<br>
<br>
- Kyle<br>
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On 02/29/2012 11:26 PM, John Wesorick wrote:
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<p>A supported common platform is one reason. Availability (once
they start mass producing them) and price are others. For my
project at least (same thing with RaspBMC) , it would be super
easy to host the already built/setup OS, download it and dd to
an SD card. </p>
<p>Also, all hacking that's done on them benefits education (the
Raspberry Pi's main goal) in two ways. One, so the capabilities
of the device can be explored/tutorialized (yes, that's a word I
just made up) and second that once they are produced for
schools, there will already be tons of cool projects for kids to
get excited for. </p>
<p>My two cents. </p>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> What I wonder is why
there's so much hype for this when there are other cheap
low-power ARM devices being thrown out all the time. There
are plenty of cell phones and other devices that'll run
Debian just fine - old cell phones, old e-book readers, etc.
- that suit the purposes of a number of the members' use
cases. Even broken devices. Who needs a working EDGE modem
- just about anything with WiFi fits the bill on a bunch of
the use cases, and any device that has software control of
USB host mode (most ARM devices I've encountered) solve the
external storage cases. HDMI requires a phone or other
device with an HDMI port (without an external graphics card
on USB host mode or something similar). Some of the devices
(particularly e-readers) do not have media decoding chips,
but I don't see a need for that, nor even seeing it being
used due to unlikeliness of compiler compatibility in a case
like an Asterisk server. That may be inaccurate, but it
still satisfies a lot of use cases. I mean, I regularly
carry around two ARM devices that run Debian (and were not
designed to) and one that runs Ubuntu (again, not designed
for it). It's not particularly difficult. There are tools
available to build chroot images that often times you can
run under Android with minimal effort, giving you a familiar
userland which you can apt-get install packages to.<br>
<br>
Don't get me wrong - the Raspberry Pi is a cool device - but
I guess my point is that even without getting one, the
possibilities and wants I've seen expressed are already
achievable! Go build cool things!<br>
<br>
- Kyle<br>
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On 02/29/2012 08:57 AM, Clay Ashby wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I'm looking forward to playing with
this. For the purpose of conversation; what's everyone
planning to do with theirs? Maybe this has already been
discussed and I missed it...
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<div>My first thought was getting it to access internet
through my Android phone. It might be fun to try and
cluster a few of them - pointless, but fun.<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:21
AM, Brandon White <span dir="ltr"><<a
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Same situation here... lame...<br>
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On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:18 AM, megadave wrote:<br>
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> Actually R-Pi's site was fine.<br>
><br>
> It was their 'partner sites' (the ones that
were supposed to be<br>
> actually taking orders) that fell over
hard.<br>
><br>
> FWIW, I was actually on at the time (by
plan) trying to get in and<br>
> order.. I tried for half an hour before
giving up and going to bed. It<br>
> appears that all either of their partner
sites are now offering is<br>
> "register an interest".<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 05:42, Mike
Williams <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> Official launch was a few hours ago
(6am GMT), and the demand was high<br>
>> enough to cripple their site. Shall we
start a betting pool on how long it<br>
>> will take before somebody at GRLUG has
one in hand on this side of the<br>
>> ocean?<br>
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