I get your point. <div><br></div><div>An example given on this</div><div>thread yesterday used </div><div><br></div><div><!doctype html5></div><div><html></div><div> ....stuff....</div><div></html></div>
<div><br></div><div>I guess to some of us it seems natural</div><div>that there would be an explicit html5</div><div>declaration. </div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, the usual reaction to unsupported</div><div>tags and options is to ignore them. I'd of</div>
<div>thought the same would be true of html5.</div><div>If the browser doesn't support html5, those</div><div>tags and their options, and their contents</div><div>would be ignored.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm using Chrome under Kubuntu 11.10,</div>
<div>so I'd think none of this would be an issue,</div><div>but to date, and without exhaustive effort,</div><div>I can play ogg files without effort, and mp3</div><div>files not at all, in the context of of a hand</div>
<div>rolled html file. </div><div><br></div><div> -- Bob</div><div><br></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Roger Roelofs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roger.roelofs@gmail.com">roger.roelofs@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Bob,<br>
<br>
First, stop depending on w3schools for accurate information.<br>
<<a href="http://w3fools.com/" target="_blank">http://w3fools.com/</a>> In this case you got lucky and their example<br>
was correct.<br>
<br>
Second, the doctype is important because browsers use it ti try to<br>
figure out f you know what you are doing. That doctype is know to<br>
keep browsers in standards mode even if they don't know about htm5.<br>
If your doctype convinces the browser to switch to compatibility mode<br>
your html5 tags won't work well. Html5 is en extension to html and so<br>
needs to work in older browsers as much as possible.<br>
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On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Bob Kline <<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> According to <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_doctype.asp" target="_blank">http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_doctype.asp</a><br>
> there is no html5 declaration using "html5".<br>
> It's example is:<br>
><br>
> Example<br>
><br>
> The <!DOCTYPE> declaration for HTML5:<br>
><br>
> <!DOCTYPE html><br>
> <html><br>
> <head><br>
> <title>Title of the document</title><br>
> </head><br>
><br>
> <body><br>
> The content of the document......<br>
> </body><br>
><br>
> </html><br>
> Of course browsers tend to silently<br>
> ignore tags and options that aren't<br>
> valid, so if you replaced "html" above<br>
> with "html5", you'd think you were on<br>
> your way.<br>
> Does it seem at all strange that<br>
> "DOCTYPE hmtl" implies html5?<br>
> Without it, any html5 tags would be<br>
> ignored of course, but why not "html5?"<br>
> -- Bob<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Topher <<a href="mailto:topher@codeventure.net">topher@codeventure.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 11/17/2011 04:27 PM, Bob Kline wrote:<br>
>> > <!DOCTYPE html5><br>
>> > <body><br>
>> > <audio controls="controls"><br>
>> > <source src="kk.mp3" type="audio/mp3" /><br>
>> > Your browser does not support the audio tag.<br>
>> > </audio><br>
>> > </body><br>
>> > </html5><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > The file is called xx.html5<br>
>><br>
>> I'm assuming your web server knows how to deal with .html5 files.<br>
>><br>
>> In your code sample above there's no <head></head>, and there's no<br>
>> <html></html>. This would cause the file to not be valid html, and<br>
>> could easily make the browser freak out. Here's the proper code:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <!DOCTYPE html5><br>
>> <html><br>
>> <head><br>
>> <title>Bob's awesome audio</title><br>
>> </head><br>
>> <body><br>
>> <audio controls="controls"><br>
>> <source src="kk.mp3" type="audio/mp3" /><br>
>> Your browser does not support the audio tag.<br>
>> </audio><br>
>> </body><br>
>> </html><br>
>><br>
>> Indenting is not necessary, I just did it for clarity.<br>
>><br>
>> Keep in mind that Firefox won't play mp3's and I don't think IE will<br>
>> play ogg. That's why they made it possible, and suggest, that you put<br>
>> source tags for both audio formats. The browser plays the one it can.<br>
>><br>
>> All that said, you might want to check out <a href="http://mediaelementjs.com/" target="_blank">http://mediaelementjs.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>> It's a small javascript app that detects browsers nicely and makes an<br>
>> html5 player with the proper file format and falls back to flash when<br>
>> the browser can't do html5.<br>
>><br>
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