Yes, money can be a wonderful thing.<div>Regarding item 2, saying that one gets</div><div>what they pay for seems like a stretch.</div><div>What I read says data traffic on Comcast's</div><div>cables is phenomenally profitable. If </div>
<div>anything, it is subsidizing programming</div><div>costs for it's cable TV operations. </div><div><br></div><div>It's hard to take this a lot further without</div><div>actually knowing some financial facts, but</div>
<div>anecdotally, looking at systems like <br>Lafayette, LA, Google, etc - and there</div><div>are many more apparently - Comcast is</div><div>expensive, if less so than some smaller</div><div>players. </div><div><br></div>
<div>Oh, and yes, it's pretty clear that Comcast</div><div>was interfering with BitTorrent until it was</div><div>caught. What else probably depends on</div><div>who's looking, but I suspect that as Comcast</div>
<div>tries to milk NBC, there will be more issues.</div><div><br></div><div> -- Bob</div><div> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Michael Mol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chase Bolen <<a href="mailto:chase.bolen@gmail.com">chase.bolen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im">> That only works for the minority of people who:<br>
> 1) have a choice of ISPs<br>
<br>
</div>Which is the majority of Americans. Vast majority, when you only look<br>
at urban and suburban areas.<br>
<br>
> 2) can afford it<br>
<br>
That's the kicker, isn't it? But that's why you shouldn't complain<br>
when you get what you pay for; subsidized services aren't going to be<br>
as nice as pure services, but they will be comparatively cheap.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> 3) understand what an SLA is<br>
<br>
</div>It's called reading the contract, and realizing that the terms are<br>
dependent on what you pay for them to be. If a provider won't budge,<br>
you *do* have other options. It may mean not going with AT&T ADSL or<br>
VDSL*, and not going with Comcast cable. It may mean using a leased<br>
line, or it may mean getting dedicated copper or fiber. If you're<br>
closer to downtown, you can get a gigabit network connection via one<br>
of the metro ethernet providers.<br>
<br>
* More generally known as U-Verse<br>
<div class="im">><br>
> Are the vast majority of Americans essentially doomed to a mickey mouse<br>
> internet?<br>
<br>
</div>No, they need to learn, drop their myopia, and not expect things to be<br>
handed to them on a silver platter.<br>
<br>
The stuff isn't free. People (like me, even) who go for data-only<br>
network connections from consumer-grade ISPs like Comcast get a cheap<br>
Internet connection at the expense of some functionality. (I don't<br>
know what/that Comcast is messing with my connectivity, but I know<br>
that consumer ISPs blocking things like port 25 or inbound port 80 is<br>
old hat.)<br>
<br>
I didn't know half of this stuff two years ago. I learned, and I'm<br>
working my way up in terms of knowledge and capability. If you don't<br>
want to work to do more than scratch the surface, you're not going to<br>
see past it.<br>
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