<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>OpenSolaris is officially dead, too bad as it had some great promise and features (like the SMF). There's also Nexenta (www.nexenta.com) which fuses the OpenSolaris kernel with debian user-land. I had a nightmare of a time getting it to run on my computers.<br><br>We have quite a few x86-based Sun fire servers, and they're top-notch in terms of remote management, build quality and ease of maintenance. Far better than Dell and HP ( at least they were a couple of years ago). I've been dealing with Oracle support for the past 2 weeks on what started as a simple dead fan on an x4240, and its been ridiculous. At one point I had the canned "We don't support CentOS, so we can't help you". I now loathe Oracle. <br><br>I ran Sun workstations and servers throughout the late 90's and early 2000's, as well as SGI, HP and IBM ( and a couple of Dec's). Sun definitely had the cost-advantage, but hardware wise they were all about equal. Maybe I was just exceptional at finding machines weaknesses?<br><br>Regards,<br>Scott<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Dave Brondsema" <dave@brondsema.net><br><b>To: </b>grlug@grlug.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:31:17 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [GRLUG] A Moment of Silence<br><br>On 09/08/2011 01:57 PM, Bob Kline wrote:<br>> I had Sun machines at work when<br>> they were still called "workstations."<br>> <br>> Solaris was indeed a wonderful OS.<br>> Too bad Sun didn't make it open source<br>> before Oracle got hold of it....<br>> <br><br>I thought they did, OpenSolaris. It doesn't look like it's active any<br>more, but there are some forks.<br><br>> How much of the reliability would you<br>> attribute to Sun's hardware? Pretty <br>> clearly an OS can't totally shine running<br>> on junk iron. <br>> <br>> -- Bob<br>> <br>> <br>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Philip J. Robar <philip.robar@gmail.com<br>> <mailto:philip.robar@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Ben Rousch wrote:<br>> <br>> > I would like to ask for a moment of silence. I just decommissioned my<br>> > company's main Samba virtual machine which had been running Ubuntu<br>> > 6.06 LTS since 2006.<br>> <br>> At Sun we regularly heard about machines that had been running for<br>> years. Solaris is so reliable that smaller customers have forgotten<br>> where their servers are. One story, perhaps apocryphal, told of a<br>> small server that got walled up when a room was rearanged and had to<br>> be found by breaking through the wall board. A field support person<br>> once found a machine in a closet that was so clogged with dust that<br>> the fans were no longer spinning, but it still running happily.<br>> <br>> I wouldn’t be surprised if AIX or HP/UX were similarly as reliable,<br>> but I’m pretty sure that SGI’s IRIX couldn’t make similar claims:<br>> <br>> A friend of mine (also an ex-Sun person) early on in his new job as<br>> VP of Eng. at an Internet Bubble Startup* asked the founder, “I’ve<br>> noticed that the SGI servers panic rather regularly. Has anyone<br>> looked into this or called SGI?”<br>> <br>> Founder, “No need to worry, they just do that. And they were free."<br>> <br>> My friend’s head then exploded.<br>> <br>> <br>> Phil<br>> <br>> *Bigfoot for those of you with long memories.<br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> This message has been scanned for viruses and<br>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<br>> believed to be clean.<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> grlug mailing list<br>> grlug@grlug.org <mailto:grlug@grlug.org><br>> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> This message has been scanned for viruses and<br>> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is<br>> believed to be clean.<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> grlug mailing list<br>> grlug@grlug.org<br>> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug<br><br><br>-- <br>Dave Brondsema : dave@brondsema.net<br>http://www.brondsema.net : personal<br>http://www.splike.com : programming<br> <><<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>grlug mailing list<br>grlug@grlug.org<br>http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug</div><br />--
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