<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Bob Kline <<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Anyway care to provide a small word salad<div>about what e17 is? </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Enlightenment's stated purpose has always been "look awesome". The lead developer is an artist who learned c specifically so he could make a window manager that wasn't ugly.</div><div><br></div><div>Back then E was considered disgustingly heavy and slow. E16 today is the same codebase and considered crazy light and fast. This humors me to no end.</div><div><br></div><div>E17 is the next version of E, and is VERY different from E16. It's a different window manager altogether, if you've tried one you can't say you've tried both.</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><br></div><div>On the subject, is anyone actually strapped</div><div>for speed? i.e., what is it you do that requires</div><div>more speed than you have? I suppose this </div>
<div>would get in to how old the iron is one is </div><div>running. Today it wold take effort to get</div><div>less than a dual core processor, and quad</div><div>core is common and inexpensive enough.</div><div><br></div>
<div> -- Bob</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:15 PM, John-Thomas Richards <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jtr@jrichards.org"><a href="mailto:jtr@jrichards.org">jtr@jrichards.org</a></a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:54:56AM -0400, Topher wrote:<br>
> >On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 08:57:40AM -0400, Topher wrote:<br>
> >>Anyone tried this? Ubuntu based, E17 front end, really stripped<br>
> >>down for speed.<br>
> ><br>
> >-1<br>
> ><br>
> >It's very unstable (at least in a VM). e17 is not ready. Still. After<br>
> >a decade. I used to follow its development closely (frequently<br>
> >recompiling to stay current). It's a crapshoot. It's amazing what it<br>
> >can do on low-end hardware (no, really; it's incredible) but it's not<br>
> >stable. Bodhi is a great way to try e17, but if you like stability you<br>
> >will be disappointed.<br>
><br>
> And since Debian threw e16 under the bus you can't even fix it by<br>
> going to e16. Bleh. Because it WOULD be cool with e16.<br>
<br>
I was very surprised when Debian removed e16, since e17 is no where near<br>
ready to replace it. I'm sure it had to do with a dwindling userbase<br>
and the lack of a maintainer.<br>
<br>
You can always compile from source. :-) But you know that.<br>
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