Indeed. That's where the M$ monopoly<div>really pays off. Vendors would much </div><div>rather support just one version of their</div><div>software than three or more - windoz,</div><div>OS X, and Linux, for example. Much</div>
<div>more profitable to have one near universal</div><div>platform.</div><div><br></div><div>To me that is the push-pull of monopoly</div><div>behavior. After some level of market </div><div>share suppliers and vendors actually </div>
<div>root for a total monopoly, for reasons</div><div>mentioned above.</div><div><br></div><div>Re Chrome, etc., totally agree. My wife</div><div>basically uses windows 7, but also the</div><div>Google items you mention. My guess is</div>
<div>that 95% of PC users mostly surf and</div><div>do e-mail 95% of the time, and play </div><div>games the rest. Which is why Chrome </div><div>OS might succeed at some level.</div><div><br></div><div> -- Bob</div><div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Dagny Scott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parsleyfirefly@gmail.com">parsleyfirefly@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Training dollars aren't really an issue. From a basic user perspective there's really no difference between Windows, Mac and Linux. If you were trained on older versions of Windows, you might be more comfortable using a basic Linux GUI like Xfce than you would be with a constantly-changing mess that is a current Windows UI.<div>
<br></div><div>The issue is with software: there's a lot of specialized software out there. As home users, we don't think about this issue, except sometimes with games. I use practically the same software on Linux that I do on Windows -- Thunderbird, Pidgin, Chrome/Chromium, LibreOffice, GIMP.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But most companies have specialized software that they run, stuff that's vital to their specific industry, and most of that will target whatever has the largest marketshare (with the exceptions of a few industries, like audio/video production, that run on Macs).</div>
<div><br></div><div>The only way I see any of this changing is specialized software moving to the Web. We've already seen this somewhat with some CRM software moving to the web, but this will have varying degrees of success depending on the industry.</div>
<div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">Dagny<br></font><div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Bob Kline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div class="h5">According to the same source, OS X has<div>about 6% the desktop market. Now that's</div>
<div>based on BSD, which would transparent to</div>
<div>most users. So this suggests that Linux</div><div>as much as anything lacks a marketing </div>
<div>vehicle, and both Linux and OS X never</div><div>got the $billions of training dollars from</div><div>corporations that windoz got. And of course</div><div>people stay with what they know, so now</div><div>breaking in to the windoz monopoly will be</div>
<div>very tough.</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div> -- Bob</div></font></div></div><div><div></div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Bob Kline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:30 PM, John-Thomas Richards <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jtr@jrichards.org" target="_blank">jtr@jrichards.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div>On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 08:38:42AM -0400, Eric Beversluis wrote: <br></div>
<br></div><div>
Regarding Linux on the desktop, that arrived (for me) in 1997. I used<br>
to care whether Linux would take over Microsoft's monopoly position<br>
until I realized that I don't run Windows and haven't since 1997 (except<br>
when working for organizations that required me to use their PCs but not<br>
on my personal computer). What do I care which OS<br>
[insert-business-name] provides for its employees? I don't work there.<br>
Debian with OpenBox, vim, Kile, mutt, evolution, Firefox, and a few<br>
others is all *I* need to be productive.<br>
--<br>
john-thomas<br>
------ <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>An OS needs a certain volume before </div><div>it gets commercial support, in the way</div><div>of drivers and package support. I suspect</div><div>that the alleged small number of Linux users</div>
<div>is balanced by the fact that many of them</div><div>are IT professionals, and the stated growth</div><div>in non-desktop areas. </div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div> -- Bob</div><div> </div></font></div>
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