<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS</a><div><br></div><div>See the URL above for lots of info,</div><div>and data in tabular form.</div>
<div><br></div><div> -- Bob</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Michael Mol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matthew Seeley <<a href="mailto:matthew@threadlight.com">matthew@threadlight.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im">> This isn't strictly related, but I noticed that Comcast is now offering<br>
> 105mb service in Grand Rapids. (Or at least, when I typed in my address into<br>
> their website, I was offered the following<br>
> --> <a href="http://www.threadlight.com/comcast_woah.png" target="_blank">http://www.threadlight.com/comcast_woah.png</a> )<br>
> Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm *highly* skeptical of this<br>
> offering, since the last time I had comcast, they couldn't reliably send me<br>
> 8mb down, much less 100+<br>
> Not that it matters, there's no way I can pay that price for internet. But<br>
> still very curious about it :)<br>
<br>
</div>It's the difference between DOCSIS 2 and DOCSIS 3.<br>
<br>
First, DOCSIS divides a frequency range of 5MHz to 1GHz into ~6MHz<br>
segments called channels. Channels can be shared among an arbitrary<br>
number of users. A channel may be used for upstream traffic or<br>
downstream traffic. A downstream channel can carry as much as 37Mb/s.<br>
An upstream channel can carry as much as 32Mb/s.<br>
<br>
A consumer's modem will be configured to search for usable-quality<br>
channels from within a particular set. DOCSIS 2 modems support the<br>
active use of one channel for upstream and one channel for downstream.<br>
DOCSIS 3 allows modems to actively use an arbitrary number of<br>
channels, and specifies that modems must be able to, at minimum,<br>
*find* four channels up and four channels down.<br>
<br>
The exact behavior of a modem is configurable by the ISP, who pushes<br>
configuration files to the modem. An ISP may specify an arbitrary<br>
number of channels that a modem is allowed to actively use at the same<br>
time.<br>
<br>
The Motorola SB6120, what I'm using, supports a maximum of four<br>
channels up and four channels down. Take that four channels down,<br>
multipy that by 37Mb/s each, and you get 148Mb/s. That's plenty of<br>
margin to provide a 105Mb/s service.<br>
<br>
Take that 1GHz-5Mhz number and divide it by 6Mhz, and you get about 33<br>
channels. As cable companies migrate to IP-based delivery of services<br>
(you should see the considerations DOCSIS3 gives for multicast), more<br>
and more of those channels will be dedicated for video and phone<br>
services. That's 33 channels to divide between upstream and<br>
downstream; you could easily get about 600Mb/s down, aggregate, and<br>
still have room for upstream. (Of course, all of these channels are<br>
shared between all of the customers attached to a particular HFC head<br>
and attached hubs, so no one customer will get that entire 600Mb/s<br>
downstream pie)<br>
<br>
Everything I just said, I learned this week, from:<br>
* The PDF I sent the list a link to a couple days ago discussing<br>
migrating networks from DOCSIS 2 to DOCSIS 3<br>
* My modem's specific technical specs<br>
* Wikipedia, where I got the 5Mhz-1GHz number.<br>
<br>
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