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    on a related note, whats up with the 250GB/month "cap"? Has anyone
    gotten a notice or call from comcast that they are using too much
    bandwidth? <br>
    <br>
    With the speed improvements some of us have seen (I'm normally
    getting 16/3 and as high as 20/3 measured through real usage not
    speed tests).  On your account page they will show you how much
    you've used and they are currently showing a 250Gb/mo limit. Its not
    really a cap because you can sail right on past it as I've done
    before with no apparent ill effects. Full speeds through the end of
    the cycle.<br>
    <br>
    Their FAQ says they contact the top offenders and try to solve the
    "problem". I can only wonder what a real bandwidth hog would use.<br>
    <br>
    Not wanting to get shutdown, I'm looking at the business class
    internet that would not have those limits. Is anyone using that? Are
    they blocking any ports? <br>
    <br>
    I also have to wonder if the limit and the warning about being shut
    down are a marketing ploy to sell more expensive services.<br>
    <br>
    On 7/9/2011 11:58 AM, Ben Rousch wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOPHfB3=vFCkBk3D+MGZy=2jdgNDwfWP1d294vCQb294t6qfag@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">The web site means nothing. You have to call to find
      out what's really offered at your address. At home, I have a tier
      faster than advertised. At work, they only had 2 tiers slower than
      advertised.<br>
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        On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bob Kline <span dir="ltr"><<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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          I've called about these higher speed
          <div>services.  The last time about a month</div>
          <div>ago, I was told that 16 Mbps residential</div>
          <div>was the highest speed offered in MI, and</div>
          <div>that there is no schedule for rolling out </div>
          <div>anything faster.  The rep then blandly</div>
          <div>said the ads didn't apply here. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I'd call before worrying much more about</div>
          <div>it.  I do have a friend in Houston who has</div>
          <div>
            a 50 Mbps Comcast service, and claims </div>
          <div>to be quite happy with it.</div>
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          </div>
          <div><font color="#888888">   -- Bob</font>
            <div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:44
                  AM, Matthew Seeley <span dir="ltr"><<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:matthew@threadlight.com"
                      target="_blank">matthew@threadlight.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,
                    204); padding-left: 1ex;">This isn't strictly
                    related, but I noticed that Comcast is now offering
                    105mb service in Grand Rapids. (Or at least, when I
                    typed in my address into their website, I was
                    offered the following --> <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.threadlight.com/comcast_woah.png"
                      target="_blank">http://www.threadlight.com/comcast_woah.png</a>
                    )
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                    </div>
                    <div>Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm
                      *highly* skeptical of this offering, since the
                      last time I had comcast, they couldn't reliably
                      send me 8mb down, much less 100+</div>
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                    </div>
                    <div>
                      Not that it matters, there's no way I can pay that
                      price for internet. But still very curious about
                      it :)</div>
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                      <font color="#888888">--<br>
                        Matthew Seeley<br>
                        Threadlight Systems<br>
                        PO Box 612, Jenison MI 49429<br>
                        T: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="tel:%28616%29%20328-5649"
                          value="+16163285649" target="_blank">(616)
                          328-5649</a><br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                      </font>
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                        <div>
                          <div>On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bob
                            Kline <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              Can you elaborate please?
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                              <div>When I upload or download a</div>
                              <div>file of known size in a known time,</div>
                              <div>there is an average speed involved</div>
                              <div>that clearly has meaning.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                So in what sense do you claim</div>
                              <div>the tests are meaningless?</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <font color="#888888">
                                <div>   -- Bob</div>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul
                                      9, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Adam Tauno
                                      Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:awilliam@whitemice.org"
                                          target="_blank">awilliam@whitemice.org</a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                          <br>
                                          Bob Kline <<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                        <div>>Why the big discrepancy
                                          in advertised<br>
                                          >and actual speed?<br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        Because these speed tests are
                                        essentially meaningless?<br>
                                        --<br>
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