<head><style>body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}</style></head><body><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">We've been discussing this on IRC quite a bit the last few days, and the main problem we've had with Panera is that they close at 9:00pm.</font></font></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">There are a number of people on IRC for whom the M6/Byron Center Biggby Coffee works really well for, provided it's deemed to be large enough.  I'd say that location's looking quite likely based on the recent conversation.<br></font><div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">- Kyle</font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Mike Williams <knightperson@zuzax.com>
<br>Sent: Jun 9, 2011 2:37 PM
<br>To: "Mailing List for LUG in greater Grand Rapids, MI area." <grlug@grlug.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Saturday Social hiatus

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    If you want a Grandville-ish location, how about the Panera Bread on
    44th street? They have reliable wifi, good food, and lots of space
    including an upper story that's a bit secluded from the rest of the
    place. <br>
    <br>
    On 06/09/2011 01:40 PM, Kyle wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:11843534.1307641254451.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net" type="cite">
      <style>body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}</style><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">Having
            been to meetings there before, I would tend to agree that
            the Biggby Coffee on Kalamazoo is not the largest one out
            there.  Nice place, very convenient if you're in the area,
            but not the largest.  With that said, I'd like to propose a
            few other potential locations:</font></font></font>
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      <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">Open until 10:00pm, comfortably
              large for meetings (I've attended meetings here before):</font></font></font></div>
      <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif"><a target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=7401728546156616731&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14">http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=7401728546156616731&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14</a></font></font></font></div>
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      <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">Open until 11:00pm, and reasonably
              large (I've held meetings here before):</font></font></font></div>
      <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif"><a target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=13356793493411422149&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14">http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=13356793493411422149&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14</a></font></font></font></div>
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      <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">Or the ol' standard, which is open
              until 10:00pm and is huge:</font></font></font></div>
      <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif"><a target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=17213477672710818510&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14">http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=17213477672710818510&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14</a></font></font></font></div>
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      <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">Also, a bit out of the box, but I
              love the idea of combining books with Linux.  They're open
              until 10:00pm, and although the caf</font></font></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif;
          line-height: 19px;">é</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"> area is small, I think later at
          night it would be large enough for the current regular
          attendee group size:</span></div>
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      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">Now, for the day.  If
          we go with Wednesday, I won't be able to make it until the
          late end of the time range most of the time, if at all.
           Already have a recurring calendar event on Wednesdays that
          runs until about 9:00pm that involves a group of other people,
          which makes it difficult for me to reschedule.  Monday and
          Friday nights both have time slots already filled by recurring
          events as well.  Plus, many churches hold services on
          Wednesday nights, so I'd think there will be a number of
          people unable to attend due to that.  For me, the current
          Saturday time slot works really really well, but if those are
          out, Tuesday and Thursday nights would both work.</font></div>
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      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">- Kyle</font></div>
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          From: Bob Kline <bob.kline@gmail.com>
            <br>
            Sent: Jun 9, 2011 11:59 AM
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              Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Saturday Social hiatus
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              It's smaller than some, but unless
              <div>turnouts explode, it's adequate.  I</div>
              <div>should say I've only been there in</div>
              <div>the mid morning, and the place can</div>
              <div>be anything from empty to half full.</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>Don't know about 8PM.</div>
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              <div>    -- Bob</div>
              <div><br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:36 AM,
                  Ben Rousch <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:brousch@gmail.com">brousch@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                    <div class="im">On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Bob
                      Kline <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                          There's a Biggby Coffee essentially
                          <div>across the street from the Kava House.</div>
                          <div>6082 Kalamazoo Ave.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Open until 10PM.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>It has WiFi.</div>
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                      <div>Have you been inside of it? Steve mentioned
                        that it's quite small. I've only ever used the
                        drive-thru there.</div>
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                            <div>   -- Bob</div>
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                                  <div>On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:45 AM,
                                    Ben Rousch <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:brousch@gmail.com">brousch@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      Well that sucks. I've been looking
                                      around and apparently most places
                                      close at 9PM. So far the best
                                      non-bar location I can find is The
                                      Bitter End Coffee, <span style="font-family:
                                        arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
                                        font-size: 13px; line-height:
                                        18px;">752 Fulton St W, Grand
                                        Rapids, Michigan 49504 . It's
                                        open 24 hours.</span>
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                                      <div><font face="arial, helvetica,
                                          sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Anybody
                                            else have a suggestion?<br>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:41 PM,
                                            Mike Nicholas / The Personal
                                            Connection <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:nicholas@iserv.net">nicholas@iserv.net</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                              Yes, George shut the place
                                              down on Saturday.<br>
                                              LINK:<br>
                                              <a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mobile.mlive.com/advgrapids/db_96702/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=x30hAlk8&detailindex=2&pn=0&ps=5">http://mobile.mlive.com/advgrapids/db_96702/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=x30hAlk8&detailindex=2&pn=0&ps=5</a><br>
                                              <br>
                                              --<br>
                                              Mike Nicholas<br>
                                              The Personal Connection<br>
                                              Computer Consultants<br>
                                              Kalamazoo, Michigan USA<br>
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                                                <div><br>
                                                  On Wed, June 8, 2011
                                                  5:18 pm, Bob Kline
                                                  wrote:<br>
                                                  > I got an e-mail
                                                  saying that Kava House<br>
                                                  > has closed.  If
                                                  true, within the last
                                                  week<br>
                                                  > or so.<br>
                                                  ><br>
                                                  > There's a Biggby
                                                  almost across the
                                                  street<br>
                                                  > if the Kava House
                                                  is closed.<br>
                                                  ><br>
                                                  >      -- Bob<br>
                                                  <br>
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