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    I suppose that never occurred to me, since I don't. Anyway, I
    usually just stand there at the counter until I see food that looks
    like what I ordered.<br>
    <br>
    Not sure about their hours, but I think they're open until 10 most
    nights. I can't speak for the quality of the coffee since I'm not a
    coffee drinker, but my wife the coffee snob will go there so it must
    be pretty good. <br>
    <br>
    On 06/09/2011 02:39 PM, Dagny Scott wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTin0sRTSVJn0mD_YEngQ-UbP2WGEyQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">... and if you have a name that's any more complicated
      than "Mike," good luck getting your order, because they'll refuse
      to call it out.<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Mike
        Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:knightperson@zuzax.com">knightperson@zuzax.com</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> If you want a
            Grandville-ish location, how about the Panera Bread on 44th
            street? They have reliable wifi, good food, and lots of
            space including an upper story that's a bit secluded from
            the rest of the place. <br>
            <div>
              <div class="h5"> <br>
                On 06/09/2011 01:40 PM, Kyle wrote:
                <blockquote type="cite"> <font color="#000000"><font
                      size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">Having been
                        to meetings there before, I would tend to agree
                        that the Biggby Coffee on Kalamazoo is not the
                        largest one out there.  Nice place, very
                        convenient if you're in the area, but not the
                        largest.  With that said, I'd like to propose a
                        few other potential locations:</font></font></font>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif">Open until 10:00pm,
                          comfortably large for meetings (I've attended
                          meetings here before):</font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=7401728546156616731&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14"
                            target="_blank">http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=7401728546156616731&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14</a></font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif">Open until 11:00pm,
                          and reasonably large (I've held meetings here
                          before):</font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=13356793493411422149&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14"
                            target="_blank">http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=13356793493411422149&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14</a></font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif">Or the ol' standard,
                          which is open until 10:00pm and is huge:</font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=17213477672710818510&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14"
                            target="_blank">http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=17213477672710818510&q=biggby+grandville,+mi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=14</a></font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif">Also, a bit out of the
                          box, but I love the idea of combining books
                          with Linux.  They're open until 10:00pm, and
                          although the caf</font></font></font><span
                      style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height:
                      19px;">é</span><span style="font-size: small;"> area
                      is small, I think later at night it would be large
                      enough for the current regular attendee group
                      size:</span></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://store-locator.barnesandnoble.com/store/2008"
                            target="_blank">http://store-locator.barnesandnoble.com/store/2008</a></font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font size="2">Now, for the day.  If we go with
                      Wednesday, I won't be able to make it until the
                      late end of the time range most of the time, if at
                      all.  Already have a recurring calendar event on
                      Wednesdays that runs until about 9:00pm that
                      involves a group of other people, which makes it
                      difficult for me to reschedule.  Monday and Friday
                      nights both have time slots already filled by
                      recurring events as well.  Plus, many churches
                      hold services on Wednesday nights, so I'd think
                      there will be a number of people unable to attend
                      due to that.  For me, the current Saturday time
                      slot works really really well, but if those are
                      out, Tuesday and Thursday nights would both work.</font></div>
                  <div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font
                          face="arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </font></font></font></div>
                  <div><font size="2">- Kyle</font></div>
                  <div><font size="2"><br>
                    </font></div>
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                          face="arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </font></font></font>
                    <blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left:
                      0px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255);">-----Original

                      Message----- <br>
                      From: Bob Kline <br>
                      Sent: Jun 9, 2011 11:59 AM <br>
                      To: "Mailing List for LUG in greater Grand Rapids,
                      MI area." <br>
                      Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Saturday Social hiatus <br>
                      <br>
                      It's smaller than some, but unless
                      <div>turnouts explode, it's adequate.  I</div>
                      <div>should say I've only been there in</div>
                      <div>the mid morning, and the place can</div>
                      <div>be anything from empty to half full.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Don't know about 8PM.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>    -- Bob</div>
                      <div><br>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at
                          7:36 AM, Ben Rousch <span dir="ltr"><<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:brousch@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">brousch@gmail.com</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:
                            0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
                            rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
                            <div>On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Bob
                              Kline <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                  style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                  border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,
                                  204); padding-left: 1ex;"> There's a
                                  Biggby Coffee essentially
                                  <div>across the street from the Kava
                                    House.</div>
                                  <div>6082 Kalamazoo Ave.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Open until 10PM.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>It has WiFi.</div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div>Have you been inside of it? Steve
                                mentioned that it's quite small. I've
                                only ever used the drive-thru there.</div>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                    style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                    border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,
                                    204); padding-left: 1ex;">
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>   -- Bob</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div>
                                          <div>On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at
                                            4:45 AM, Ben Rousch <span
                                              dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:brousch@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank">brousch@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
                                          0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
                                          rgb(204, 204, 204);
                                          padding-left: 1ex;">
                                          <div>
                                            <div> Well that sucks. I've
                                              been looking around and
                                              apparently most places
                                              close at 9PM. So far the
                                              best non-bar location I
                                              can find is The Bitter End
                                              Coffee, <span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
                                                font-size: 13px;
                                                line-height: 18px;">752
                                                Fulton St W, Grand
                                                Rapids, Michigan 49504 .
                                                It's open 24 hours.</span>
                                              <div> <font face="arial,
                                                  helvetica, sans-serif"><span
                                                    style="line-height:
                                                    18px;"><br>
                                                  </span></font></div>
                                              <div><font face="arial,
                                                  helvetica, sans-serif"><span
                                                    style="line-height:
                                                    18px;">Anybody else
                                                    have a suggestion?<br>
                                                  </span></font>
                                                <div><br>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On

                                                    Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at
                                                    5:41 PM, Mike
                                                    Nicholas / The
                                                    Personal Connection
                                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nicholas@iserv.net" target="_blank">nicholas@iserv.net</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      class="gmail_quote"
                                                      style="margin: 0pt
                                                      0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                                                      border-left: 1px
                                                      solid rgb(204,
                                                      204, 204);
                                                      padding-left:
                                                      1ex;"> Yes, George
                                                      shut the place
                                                      down on Saturday.<br>
                                                      LINK:<br>
                                                      <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mobile.mlive.com/advgrapids/db_96702/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=x30hAlk8&detailindex=2&pn=0&ps=5"
                                                        target="_blank">http://mobile.mlive.com/advgrapids/db_96702/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=x30hAlk8&detailindex=2&pn=0&ps=5</a><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      --<br>
                                                      Mike Nicholas<br>
                                                      The Personal
                                                      Connection<br>
                                                      Computer
                                                      Consultants<br>
                                                      Kalamazoo,
                                                      Michigan USA<br>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                          On Wed, June
                                                          8, 2011 5:18
                                                          pm, Bob Kline
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          > I got an
                                                          e-mail saying
                                                          that Kava
                                                          House<br>
                                                          > has
                                                          closed.  If
                                                          true, within
                                                          the last week<br>
                                                          > or so.<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > There's a
                                                          Biggby almost
                                                          across the
                                                          street<br>
                                                          > if the
                                                          Kava House is
                                                          closed.<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          >      --
                                                          Bob<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </blockquote>
                                                  </div>
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