This is a mouthful. There is an <div>obligation on the part of students</div><div>to try to learn something just as there</div><div>is on the school to give a stamp of </div><div>approval only to those it thinks did.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thus the currently dreaded tests. </div><div>People of course hate them, but it's the </div><div>only realistic way a school has of knowing</div><div>whether someone learned anything, even</div><div>
if that is only what is on the test. That is</div><div>at least something. Public school </div><div>teachers of course hate tests because</div><div>there is no where to hide if they don't</div><div>work out well. I put up with tests all</div>
<div>the way through college - and the </div><div>test rooms were monitored. I still can't</div><div>see any other realistic way to maintain</div><div>the quality of a school.</div><div><br></div><div>As for learning on the job, yes. If you</div>
<div>have a good job. Bigger companies</div><div>often provide ways to take either in</div><div>house or college courses now and then.</div><div>But all approaches depend on the student</div><div>caring about learning something, not just</div>
<div>getting by. Discipline is no longer a </div><div>school function. Courts actually frown</div><div>on it. If you want someone to whip you</div><div>in to action, get a dominatrix. </div><div><br></div><div> -- Bob</div>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Lijewski, Scott A <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ScottL@mmcwm.com">ScottL@mmcwm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I graduated from ITT with an associates in Software Application Programming. I have since gone on to get my bachelors in Computer Science from another school. I found most the instructors at ITT to be good (Eric Hartwell included) but the course material seemed to be easier than that I found at other schools (I graduated with a 4.0 without doing homework). Several of the courses consisted of 2 hours of power point and then an hour of lab (some of which was copying code from a book into a text editor and then a compiler). I’ve learned more on the job than I did at either school I’ve attended. Looking back ITT was a good way to get a quick degree and then get a career in a field but it seemed overpriced. This was 6 years ago so I don’t know if it’s changed since then.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Scott</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:grlug-bounces@grlug.org" target="_blank">grlug-bounces@grlug.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:grlug-bounces@grlug.org" target="_blank">grlug-bounces@grlug.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>mooselikebriard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 22, 2011 7:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org" target="_blank">grlug@grlug.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [GRLUG] Is ITT Tech a Good School?</span></p></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Does anybody here have or know anyone with first hand knowledge regarding ITT Tech? I am thinking of enrolling in the Information Systems Security Bachelor of Science program at the Wyoming, MI campus. Reviews of ITT on the net are mixed, although everyone agrees ITT is very expensive.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I like the fact it is a rather specific course of study. I am unsure where else a person can learn this stuff so alternative ideas for gaining this type of knowledge would be welcome also.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
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