And less time reading the hundreds of resumes that every job post on Monster gets these days<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Michael Mol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">The games as, as part of that 'quirky quiz' represent a set of<br>
practical skills tests, thinking pattern tests, domain knowledge tests<br>
and personality and culture compatibility tests.<br>
<br>
The quiz strikes me as a very good approach for screening modern<br>
technologists (if you don't like the word 'geek', try that instead)<br>
for job interviews.<br>
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Bob Kline <<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Why the games? i.e., why not just post<br>
> a realistic job description, including a salary<br>
> range?<br>
> Saying one is looking for a geek might<br>
> bring smiles to the computer community,<br>
> but colloquially it suggests one is looking<br>
> for a social loser who is willing to devote<br>
> his or her life to the cause. And will likely<br>
> wall themselves off from the rest of the<br>
> organization as much as possible in order<br>
> to keep away the demanding, largely<br>
> know-nothing, computer users. It's not<br>
> an appealing pitch, but then, perhaps things<br>
> have not really changed much in the last<br>
> 30 years.<br>
> We've seen cases of ridiculous job<br>
> descriptions, seemingly looking for someone<br>
> fluent in 50 or more computer languages<br>
> and-or major packages. If someone has a<br>
> real job, with finite duties and hours, and<br>
> pay commensurate with expectations, why<br>
> not just spell it out. Knowing the boss is a<br>
> great guy is a plus from the job seeker's<br>
> point of view, but just another factor.<br>
> -- Bob<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Casey DuBois <<a href="mailto:grlugcasey@gmail.com">grlugcasey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I can also vouch for Kyle and told him to post this opportunity to the<br>
>> list. For anyone looking for work this may be an excellent opportunity.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Casey DuBois<br>
>> 616-808-6942<br>
>><br>
>> On Nov 24, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Michael Mol <<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > I can't say a whole lot without risking violating an NDA, and even<br>
>> > providing this character reference risks putting me in an odd conflict<br>
>> > with my own employer, but I do feel a couple things need to be said.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I know these folks personally and professionally, and they are some of<br>
>> > the friendliest and polite people I've ever met, and Kyle is one of<br>
>> > the enthusiastic, driven and cleverest people I've ever met. I suspect<br>
>> > he is smarter and has a higher capability for learning than I have or<br>
>> > will have.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I personally think it would be foolish for anyone on this list to give<br>
>> > a blanket pass on the opportunity without at least trying for an<br>
>> > interview.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Matt Michielsen<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:mattmichielsen@gmail.com">mattmichielsen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> My favorite from their images directory was this one:<br>
>> >> <a href="http://virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/images/customform.jpg-6-21-2006" target="_blank">http://virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/images/customform.jpg-6-21-2006</a><br>
>> >> Reminds me of the geocities days.<br>
>> >> I didn't look at their test or whatever though. I have a hard time<br>
>> >> wanting to put any time toward a company that I can't find any real history<br>
>> >> on. I guess if I were looking for a job it might be a different story.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Bill Littlejohn <<a href="mailto:billl@mtd-inc.com">billl@mtd-inc.com</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Not only that..<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> billl@phoenix:~$ whois <a href="http://virtualinterconnectsoftware.com" target="_blank">virtualinterconnectsoftware.com</a><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Domain Name: <a href="http://VIRTUALINTERCONNECTSOFTWARE.COM" target="_blank">VIRTUALINTERCONNECTSOFTWARE.COM</a><br>
>> >>> Registrar: EASYDNS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.<br>
>> >>> Whois Server: <a href="http://whois.easydns.com" target="_blank">whois.easydns.com</a><br>
>> >>> Referral URL: <a href="http://www.easydns.com" target="_blank">http://www.easydns.com</a><br>
>> >>> Name Server: <a href="http://NS1.VIRTUALINTERCONNECT.COM" target="_blank">NS1.VIRTUALINTERCONNECT.COM</a><br>
>> >>> Name Server: <a href="http://NS2.VIRTUALINTERCONNECT.COM" target="_blank">NS2.VIRTUALINTERCONNECT.COM</a><br>
>> >>> Status: clientTransferProhibited<br>
>> >>> Status: clientUpdateProhibited<br>
>> >>> Updated Date: 16-nov-2010<br>
>> >>> Creation Date: 16-nov-2010<br>
>> >>> Expiration Date: 16-nov-2011<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>>>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:16:46 UTC <<<<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:19 PM, David van Geest<br>
>> >>> <<a href="mailto:david.vangeest@gmail.com">david.vangeest@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>> Let me guess.... first task for the new employee will be to write the<br>
>> >>>> company's website :-).<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM,<br>
>> >>>> <<a href="mailto:kyle@virtualinterconnectsoftware.com">kyle@virtualinterconnectsoftware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>>> Hi everyone,<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> We have a job opening for a programmer/system administrator<br>
>> >>>>> position, and<br>
>> >>>>> built a bit of a geek test to check for some of the skills we're<br>
>> >>>>> looking<br>
>> >>>>> for:<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> <a href="http://geektest.virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/" target="_blank">http://geektest.virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/</a><br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> You can take the test semi-anonymously without applying for the job<br>
>> >>>>> - when<br>
>> >>>>> you get to the end, it lets you choose whether you want to apply or<br>
>> >>>>> not.<br>
>> >>>>> Minimal information is required (first name, e-mail, a bit more if<br>
>> >>>>> you want<br>
>> >>>>> to apply for the job), and you're required to post your score to the<br>
>> >>>>> high<br>
>> >>>>> score list under a three-letter handle of your choosing. It's<br>
>> >>>>> designed as<br>
>> >>>>> a bit of a game, and some basic hacking is encouraged (see the rules<br>
>> >>>>> for<br>
>> >>>>> details). Whether or not you want the job, go ahead and try it,<br>
>> >>>>> even just<br>
>> >>>>> to see how well you do!<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> If you're interested in the job, we're looking for a really geeky<br>
>> >>>>> person<br>
>> >>>>> to help us:<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> - write software, mainly in PHP/HTML/CSS/JavaScript<br>
>> >>>>> - administrate networks, servers, computers, systems, and other<br>
>> >>>>> electronic<br>
>> >>>>> dohickeys with blinky lights and fans<br>
>> >>>>> - secure data and prevent hacking attempts<br>
>> >>>>> - act as on-call systems administration relief at odd hours if<br>
>> >>>>> needed<br>
>> >>>>> (which isn't often)<br>
>> >>>>> - connect/fix printers and cell phones (the glamorous part of the<br>
>> >>>>> job - in<br>
>> >>>>> all seriousness, this should be fairly rare)<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> Ideally, someone who:<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> - knows how to program reasonably well<br>
>> >>>>> - has experience with Linux (you are on a Linux mailing list,<br>
>> >>>>> right?)<br>
>> >>>>> - knows a thing or two about encryption<br>
>> >>>>> - can show up for work bathed and in clean clothes<br>
>> >>>>> - keeps their cables neat and organized<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> Good luck!<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> Warm Regards,<br>
>> >>>>> Kyle Maas<br>
>> >>>>> Virtual Interconnect Software, LLC<br>
>> >>>>><br>
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