Assume? The job description could<div>include something like "we are a company</div><div>engaged in......"</div><div><br></div><div>IT professional reads better than geek IMHO.</div><div><br></div><div>"Just do your job" actually sounds pretty good</div>
<div>in today's world. As long as one knows what it</div><div>is anyway. Creativity is a very overused word</div><div>today. Everyone even mildly competent, making</div><div>the most mundane, expected, contributions calls</div>
<div>themselves creative. Probably doesn't help to </div><div>narrow things down much. A good recommendation</div><div>by someone known to be competent in the field</div><div>sounds useful.</div><div><br></div><div>
-- Bob</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Joseph Workman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joseph.workman@gmail.com">joseph.workman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><font size="2"><font face="times new roman,serif">I like the "game" it shows creativity and gives some insight into the culture of a company. I am assuming this isn't the normal "realistic" --- just do your job -- kind of company but maybe a company that has a sense of humor and creativity.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="times new roman,serif"><br></font></font><br> </div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Bob Kline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Why the games? i.e., why not just post
<div>a realistic job description, including a salary</div>
<div>range?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Saying one is looking for a geek might </div>
<div>bring smiles to the computer community,</div>
<div>but colloquially it suggests one is looking</div>
<div>for a social loser who is willing to devote</div>
<div>his or her life to the cause. And will likely</div>
<div>wall themselves off from the rest of the </div>
<div>organization as much as possible in order</div>
<div>to keep away the demanding, largely </div>
<div>know-nothing, computer users. It's not</div>
<div>an appealing pitch, but then, perhaps things</div>
<div>have not really changed much in the last</div>
<div>30 years.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>We've seen cases of ridiculous job </div>
<div>descriptions, seemingly looking for someone</div>
<div>fluent in 50 or more computer languages</div>
<div>and-or major packages. If someone has a</div>
<div>real job, with finite duties and hours, and</div>
<div>pay commensurate with expectations, why</div>
<div>not just spell it out. Knowing the boss is a</div>
<div>great guy is a plus from the job seeker's </div>
<div>point of view, but just another factor.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div> -- Bob</div>
<div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Casey DuBois <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grlugcasey@gmail.com" target="_blank">grlugcasey@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">I can also vouch for Kyle and told him to post this opportunity to the list. For anyone looking for work this may be an excellent opportunity.<br>
<br>Regards,<br><font color="#888888">Casey DuBois<br>616-808-6942<br></font>
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<div><br>On Nov 24, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Michael Mol <<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikemol@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I can't say a whole lot without risking violating an NDA, and even<br>
> providing this character reference risks putting me in an odd conflict<br>> with my own employer, but I do feel a couple things need to be said.<br>><br>> I know these folks personally and professionally, and they are some of<br>
> the friendliest and polite people I've ever met, and Kyle is one of<br>> the enthusiastic, driven and cleverest people I've ever met. I suspect<br>> he is smarter and has a higher capability for learning than I have or<br>
> will have.<br>><br>> I personally think it would be foolish for anyone on this list to give<br>> a blanket pass on the opportunity without at least trying for an<br>> interview.<br>><br>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Matt Michielsen<br>
> <<a href="mailto:mattmichielsen@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattmichielsen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> My favorite from their images directory was this one: <a href="http://virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/images/customform.jpg-6-21-2006" target="_blank">http://virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/images/customform.jpg-6-21-2006</a><br>
>> Reminds me of the geocities days.<br>>> I didn't look at their test or whatever though. I have a hard time wanting to put any time toward a company that I can't find any real history on. I guess if I were looking for a job it might be a different story.<br>
>><br>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Bill Littlejohn <<a href="mailto:billl@mtd-inc.com" target="_blank">billl@mtd-inc.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> Not only that..<br>>>><br>
>>> billl@phoenix:~$ whois <a href="http://virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/" target="_blank">virtualinterconnectsoftware.com</a><br>>>><br>>>> Domain Name: <a href="http://virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/" target="_blank">VIRTUALINTERCONNECTSOFTWARE.COM</a><br>
>>> Registrar: EASYDNS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.<br>>>> Whois Server: <a href="http://whois.easydns.com/" target="_blank">whois.easydns.com</a><br>>>> Referral URL: <a href="http://www.easydns.com/" target="_blank">http://www.easydns.com</a><br>
>>> Name Server: <a href="http://ns1.virtualinterconnect.com/" target="_blank">NS1.VIRTUALINTERCONNECT.COM</a><br>>>> Name Server: <a href="http://ns2.virtualinterconnect.com/" target="_blank">NS2.VIRTUALINTERCONNECT.COM</a><br>
>>> Status: clientTransferProhibited<br>>>> Status: clientUpdateProhibited<br>>>> Updated Date: 16-nov-2010<br>>>> Creation Date: 16-nov-2010<br>>>> Expiration Date: 16-nov-2011<br>
>>><br>>>>>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:16:46 UTC <<<<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:19 PM, David van Geest<br>>>> <<a href="mailto:david.vangeest@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.vangeest@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Let me guess.... first task for the new employee will be to write the<br>>>>> company's website :-).<br>>>>><br>>>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM, <<a href="mailto:kyle@virtualinterconnectsoftware.com" target="_blank">kyle@virtualinterconnectsoftware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> Hi everyone,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> We have a job opening for a programmer/system administrator position, and<br>>>>>> built a bit of a geek test to check for some of the skills we're looking<br>
>>>>> for:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> <a href="http://geektest.virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/" target="_blank">http://geektest.virtualinterconnectsoftware.com/</a><br>>>>>><br>
>>>>> You can take the test semi-anonymously without applying for the job - when<br>>>>>> you get to the end, it lets you choose whether you want to apply or not.<br>>>>>> Minimal information is required (first name, e-mail, a bit more if you want<br>
>>>>> to apply for the job), and you're required to post your score to the high<br>>>>>> score list under a three-letter handle of your choosing. It's designed as<br>>>>>> a bit of a game, and some basic hacking is encouraged (see the rules for<br>
>>>>> details). Whether or not you want the job, go ahead and try it, even just<br>>>>>> to see how well you do!<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> If you're interested in the job, we're looking for a really geeky person<br>
>>>>> to help us:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> - write software, mainly in PHP/HTML/CSS/JavaScript<br>>>>>> - administrate networks, servers, computers, systems, and other electronic<br>
>>>>> dohickeys with blinky lights and fans<br>>>>>> - secure data and prevent hacking attempts<br>>>>>> - act as on-call systems administration relief at odd hours if needed<br>
>>>>> (which isn't often)<br>>>>>> - connect/fix printers and cell phones (the glamorous part of the job - in<br>>>>>> all seriousness, this should be fairly rare)<br>>>>>><br>
>>>>> Ideally, someone who:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> - knows how to program reasonably well<br>>>>>> - has experience with Linux (you are on a Linux mailing list, right?)<br>
>>>>> - knows a thing or two about encryption<br>>>>>> - can show up for work bathed and in clean clothes<br>>>>>> - keeps their cables neat and organized<br>>>>>><br>
>>>>> Good luck!<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Warm Regards,<br>>>>>> Kyle Maas<br>>>>>> Virtual Interconnect Software, LLC<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> --<br>
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